Hi everyone,

Currently looking at either a Pixel 8 or a S23 as a replacement for my Zenfone 8 that is slowly becoming a hindrence due to (primarily) the battery. I would replace it, but as it costs a lot to do that here and I have needs for a non-compromised water protection DIY feels like a dangerous option.

So S23 vs Pixel 8, what would you guys recommend assuming I can get either for the same price?

I like the S23 hardware a bit better on paper, but as Pixel phones generally are very flashable my anti-Google sentiments might (ironically) push me there.

I would get a fairphone 5 for the hot-swappable battery etc if they weren’t so expensive for what you get, and as Im buying second hand reuse is better for the environment anyways.

    • woelkchen@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Not really relevant for a person who wants to use community ROMs because of “anti-Google sentiments”.

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        8 months ago

        Actually, it still is relevant because custom ROMs often incorporate driver and security updates to the base ROM.

        I know Graphene recommends against the out-of-support Pixels for this reason.

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          8 months ago

          If your stock OS doesnt ship updates it is very likely the custom OS will also not be able to ship them

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        8 months ago

        I’m not sure that’s a fair comment - I’m on lineage and I’m still getting rom and android security updates, but not vendor ones. On an OP9 for context.

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            8 months ago

            This is really nice, but the updates do not include everything. Phones are SOCs and Android uses a custom Kernel made for that device, and Firmware needs to be signed by manifacturers. If the manifacturers dont care, you will be open to many vulnerabilities.

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              8 months ago

              When OEMs commit to 7 years of updates but the SoC provider doesn’t support their chips for that long, later updates don’t contain everything anyway.