When it happens more often that I see critics of a group make claims about what that group says or believes, and when I’ve never seen members of the group say anything that matches those claims, it makes me suspicious.
This is what warmed me up to veganism for example - growing up hearing nothing but arguments against vegans, and then when finally seeing some things a real vegan had to say and having to realize the vast majority of those anti-animal-rights arguments are grossly full of shit.
I’m getting the same vibes here. I don’t engage with political ideology much these days because theory makes my eyes glaze, but posts like these seem 1) suspicious af, and wouldn’t surprise me if they’re being pushed by paid actors, and 2) seem highly likely to be a strawman.
“We critically Russia” is too fucking funny to be a typo. Its almost like they can’t disapprove of something without immediately defending the other side. As an adult, I can say US imperialism is bad. Also as an adult, I can say that doesn’t make Russia inherently good.
I am not sure what you thought the statement was intended to be, but the typo is that they were saying they “critically support Russia”. With critical support being a common leftist term for support while being critical.
Put simply they are saying “US imperialism is bad, that doesn’t make Russia inherently good.”
I was like you until I started seeing more ML posts on here that completely baffled my mind. In one hand Palestine should be free (rightly so) and then in the other they claim Ukraine is full of Nazis and Russia is doing the world a service of exterminating them. The disconnect is pretty crazy. If you want hard actual evidence, just go to an ML instance and poke around for a bit. It’s not hard to find, sadly.
When it happens more often that I see critics of a group make claims about what that group says or believes, and when I’ve never seen members of the group say anything that matches those claims, it makes me suspicious.
This is what warmed me up to veganism for example - growing up hearing nothing but arguments against vegans, and then when finally seeing some things a real vegan had to say and having to realize the vast majority of those anti-animal-rights arguments are grossly full of shit.
I’m getting the same vibes here. I don’t engage with political ideology much these days because theory makes my eyes glaze, but posts like these seem 1) suspicious af, and wouldn’t surprise me if they’re being pushed by paid actors, and 2) seem highly likely to be a strawman.
You want to be taken seriously, show evidence.
I’m sorry, you haven’t seen tankies say this on Lemmy?
You can look through this thread if you want confirmation.
They’re also in this very post.
The link to your thread shows zero comments for me. The OP post in the thread is correct though, Israel is a child killing state.
Israel is absolutely a child-killing apartheid genocidal state.
Here’s a taste:
“We critically Russia” is too fucking funny to be a typo. Its almost like they can’t disapprove of something without immediately defending the other side. As an adult, I can say US imperialism is bad. Also as an adult, I can say that doesn’t make Russia inherently good.
I am not sure what you thought the statement was intended to be, but the typo is that they were saying they “critically support Russia”. With critical support being a common leftist term for support while being critical.
Put simply they are saying “US imperialism is bad, that doesn’t make Russia inherently good.”
Go look at any of the tankie communities, hell even c/leftymemes is full of this bullshit.
I was like you until I started seeing more ML posts on here that completely baffled my mind. In one hand Palestine should be free (rightly so) and then in the other they claim Ukraine is full of Nazis and Russia is doing the world a service of exterminating them. The disconnect is pretty crazy. If you want hard actual evidence, just go to an ML instance and poke around for a bit. It’s not hard to find, sadly.