• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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          5 days ago

          It’s only “eating the onion” if the claim was obviously intended as a joke. When a fictional claim is plausible, and plainly taken as sincere by most audiences… that’s just lying.

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              5 days ago

              I disagree with the premise. Bad satire can have the same effect as deliberate misinformation, and more people sharing it.

              Some of whom apparently think believability is a feature. ‘Ooh, this one got me!’ when the appropriate reaction is blunt criticism.

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                5 days ago

                Culpability is not the issue, intent is. Lying by accident isn’t lying. Someone failing to pick up on your widely recognized status as a satire rag and choosing instead to believe whatever the fuck they come across is also not lying —or said rag’s fault. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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                  5 days ago

                  Many sources of bad satire have no reputation, or have a reputation for missing a lot of easy swings. Failure to correct for that becomes knowingly pushing false claims that people will believe - possibly well within reason. Some of these motherfuckers do not understand what satire is. They just make shit up and assume everyone’s gonna ‘get the joke.’ But if the joke just that they’re making shit up, then it’s alarmingly easy for made-up shit to be less stupid than real life.

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                    5 days ago

                    I feel that you’re missing some points here and skating very close to a number of logical fallacies, but I’m simply way too knackered rn to argue for its own sake.