• RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I’ve seen this BS statement popping up on gun sites. Just another bullshit comparison made up to minimize a problem. Funny how they limit it just to schools as an arbitrary limit while ignoring things like workplace shootings or terrorist attacks like the shooters at concerts or clubs.

    All shootings of uninvolved, random people.

    And the principle of the comparison is stupid. You go out to play golf knowing there is bad weather and elect not to take suitable shelter vs a teacher in a location that should never see violence. E: more apt comparison: how many people are killed in school classrooms by lightning? That’s how absurd it is.

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      11 months ago

      Hey, there were thunderstorms in my classrooms when I was a kid. Stop picking on this piece of shit apologist. I was struck by lightning twelve times and have yet to be shot. Asshole’s logic checks out.

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      11 months ago

      The original post was about schools, was it not? The media is hyper focused on schools because of the emotional aspect they can exploit to promote gun control. If they had to look outside of schools you could easily demonstrate that most shooting deaths are due to gang violence. The media doesn’t want to talk about gang violence which is an actually solvable problem and involves already illegal activity. They only want to talk about taking away people’s right to bear arms.

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        11 months ago

        Yeah, we’ve already covered that you don’t like hearing about the consequences of your hobby, keep it up and I’ll call you a “snowflake”.

        No, most deaths by gun are suicides. Nearly 60%. Gang homocide only accounts for ~30% of gun deaths. The rest are non-gang, police, accident, or defense.

        Media doesn’t want to talk about gang violence? Don’t know what planet you’re on, but local news always mentions whether or not the shooting was likely gang related.

        I’m tired of this conversation. You plainly are willing to sacrifice anyone else or butwhatabout any other subject in order to avoid dealing with the reality of guns in this country. IDGAF about your “right” when you treat it irresponsibly enough that infringes on others’ right to life. And I say that as a gun owner. You sick guns-at-any-price morons have done more to destroy a fun pastime than anything I can imagine.

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          11 months ago

          Sure, I was talking about homicide, suicide is typically treated as a different problem. Most gun homicides are gang related. The media reports on gang violence but they don’t fixate on it and demand solutions. There is clearly a demonstrable difference which is the point.

          You’re making a lot of assumptions about me. I’m merely pointing out that school shootings are very rare events and that the media does a lot to promote them.

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            11 months ago

            Speaking of gang violence, don’t you think it is exacerbated by having guns readily available?

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              11 months ago

              No. Gangs kills each other however they can, having firearms makes no difference. They might resort to things like explosive which are more damaging.