• ZK686@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    You’re talking about enforcing certain laws to keep them off, that’s different than what Colorado’s doing. Colorado is deciding on their own that Trump is guilty of something, and therefore, must be kept off the ballot. Our voting system can’t allow states to determine who’s guilty of what, and who to keep of the ballots, simply based on opinion.

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      We literally have an amendment to the constitution to keep insurrectionists off the ballot. That’s a form of law

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          11 months ago

          Finding that Trump had engaged in insurrection was part of how Colorado got to booting him from the ballot.

          A criminal conviction has never been a requirement for keeping somebody out of office under the 14th amendment

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            SCOTUS disagrees with you. And their opinion of Constitutional legality is ultimately the only one that has any relevance

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              They haven’t actually issued a ruling at this point. And I don’t have to agree even if they do

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                Obviously they haven’t issued an opinion, but their comments today make it clear what they’re going to do

                My point is that you can’t put forth any authoritative argument on this matter when SCOTUS is just going to rule for Trump. And they ultimately decide what the Constitution means and does not mean.

                Legally, they are sovereign over the interpretation of all aspects of the constitution. So saying that they’re being hypocritical or are ignoring precedent isn’t really relevant. They’re allowed to do that.

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                  And if they do, it becomes one more reason to alter the court to fix their corrupt behavior

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                  Legally even that is pretty dubious. Didn’t they just randomly give themselves that power once and we all agreed to let them have it?

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                    It is true that the Constitution does not explicitly grant SCOTUS the power of judicial review. SCOTUS granted itself that power in Marbury v Madison, which was 225+ years ago

                    Libs should bring that up more often tbh. As should textualists, tbh