• jumjummy@lemmy.world
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    ITT a bunch of ml users complaining about how the two party system and first past the post voting sucks. Yeah, it does, but in the reality we live in, once the general election came up and your choices were Trump, Harris, 3rd party, or don’t vote, all choices save one helped Trump.

    Cry and whine all you want, but that was the reality of the world in November 2022.

    Then again, I doubt many of the ml users can even vote in the US elections due to not being actual US citizens, or maybe even human.

    Anyone bringing up Gaza better be bringing up the deaths as a result of Trump’s cuts to USAid since that’s a significantly bigger number of deaths from a policy that the Democrats would absolutely have not implemented. Odd that I never hear these ml users mentioning those stats…

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      Anyone bringing up Gaza better be bringing up the deaths as a result of Trump’s cuts to USAid since that’s a significantly bigger number of deaths from a policy that the Democrats would absolutely have not implemented. Odd that I never hear these ml users mentioning those stats…

      Probably because they were trying to educate you on the deaths that Biden and Obama caused by bombing the shit out of kids. Or the number of people that they sent to torture prisons. Or the massive amounts of people they deported with no trial. Or the amount of people that they put in prisons. Odd that I never hear .world users mentioning those stats…

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        Why would they mention those stats? They’re having too much fun virtue signaling while having bottomless mimosas at brunch.

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          “I voted for Harris, so technically I don’t give a fuck how many people die” is pretty much the vibe.

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      I’m an American Marxist-Leninist who won’t participate in your sick electoral kayfabe. You can call me Russian, a bot, dehumanize me, or whatever pathetic bigoted playbook you normally follow. I am real, I walk among you, and I will agitate and fight until the day I die.

      There are thousands of us across the country. Millions across the continent. Billions across the globe. You can deny our existence, imagine us to be paper tigers, but like many reactionary movements before, it’s your political grave to dig.

      “Cry and whine” is a fitting description for what liberals do every election cycle, actually. If leftists had it our way, we wouldn’t have to be subject to the bullshit of Capitalist elections at all. It’s the liberals who won’t shut the fuck up about how they can’t beat the other liberals and how that’s socialists faults.

      Madness. Pathetic. Embarrassing. I can’t wait until people just like you are finally on the fringe.

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        Thank you for your service in getting Trump elected. At least you prevented genocide from happening.

        I’m not sure how, as a Trump voter (effectively), you can call other people bigots though.

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          “(effectively)” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

          By not voting for Trump, I am “effectively” a Harris voter, by the exact same logic. So what’s the problem? I thought you wanted us to vote Harris?

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              I voted for Trump by not voting Harris, voted for Harris by not voting Trump, and voted for the person I actually voted for. One cool trick to commit voter fraud twice 😎

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          I always find it so telling that Libs have to make up beliefs, values, and actions when people that point out that it’s the Democrat’s fault that we live in a world where Trump is president.

          But of course, if they could make a coherent world view, and defend it, they wouldn’t be Liberals.

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            This is an extremely charitable way to put it, but yeah, it’s just silly bullshit all the way down.

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          I don’t suffer from delusion, so these kinds of attacks don’t have much success. The truth is that pondering trolley problems all day belies a deep lack of curiosity. Indeed, studying even cursory Dialectical Materialism allows literally anyone to giggle at idealistic Liberal rhetoric like this.

          If you have to argue against shit you just made up to justify your genocidal ideology, go for it. I don’t care. You’re weak and ineffective, just like your ideology.