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    4 days ago

    Or… it could possibly be that you don’t have any data to back yourself up, so you have to resort to name-calling to make yourself feel significant.

    As someone who thinks things like genocide, rape, and bombing kids is bad, I always get a kick when Libs and Conservatives call me MAGA, or BlueMAGA, when I point out that their party supports those things. Yet for some reason, they never seem to have data to show that I’m wrong.

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      Quick question - would Kamala have pushed Project 2025? Yes or no.

      No, of course not.

      Followed up by asking if she’d also have attacked first amendment rights which you conveniently ignored.

      Yeah you’re just like MAGA, you’ve got your tag. I wouldn’t be surprised if you voted for Trump.

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        Followed up by asking if she’d also have attacked first amendment rights which you conveniently ignored.

        Oh, well let me clarify that: Yes, she would have. She proudly stood behind Biden when he did that.

        Yeah you’re just like MAGA, you’ve got your tag. I wouldn’t be surprised if you voted for Trump.

        Yes, I’m sure you believe that to be true. Actually reading what people write is hard, and I wouldn’t expect you to be able to step up to that challenge.

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              Oh would you look at that, intellectual dishonesty.

              First link, state police. Second link, state police - Biden also rejoined the Paris Agreement on his first day in office + signed the Inflation Reduction Act which invested hundreds of billions into clean energy initiatives. Third link, would ya look at that - Republicans called for Biden to send in the feds against protests; he didn’t. Fourth link, this father of a killed marine was personally invited by conservative representative Brian Mast and happens to be the only instance involving feds that you linked. Because he broke federal law. Also this was instantly used by Brian Mast to garner support for his party, so congrats on outting yourself again.

              As for the timeline of govt attacks on journalists, oh would ya look at that: state police, state police, state police, state police. Not a single mention of Biden sending in feds! In fact, Biden revoked Trump’s executive order 13933 which Trump used to justify deploying feds to states during protests. He explicitly did not support calling in the National Guard or using federal forces to clear pro-Palestinian protests and left their policing up to, you guessed it, state police.

              Try again, muppet - maybe this time you’ll provide evidence that wasn’t handpicked for you by conservatives.

              Name policy, name direct action.

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                First link, state police. Second link, state police…

                Yes. The same state that Biden supported, and incrased funds for.

                Biden also rejoined the Paris Agreement on his first day in office + signed the Inflation Reduction Act which invested hundreds of billions into clean energy initiatives.

                So he signed a couple of bills that gave hundreds of billions to his friends. The same president that gave more oil drilling permits than Trump did. What a hero! But I fail to see what that has to do with what we are discussing.

                Third link, would ya look at that - Republicans called for Biden to send in the feds against protests; he didn’t.

                You are correct. But he also violated the law, and surpressed their speech, and sent them to be tortured in prison when he could have helped them out. And Harris stood behind him the whole way.

                Fourth link, this father of a killed marine was personally invited by conservative representative Brian Mast and happens to be the only instance involving feds that you linked. Because he broke federal law.

                Well, I guess if it’s a Republican, then they don’t deserve freedom of speech. We wouldn’t want to let pesky things like “principles” to get in the way and make a genocidist and rapist feel bad for killing people.

                Also this was instantly used by Brian Mast to garner support for his party, so congrats on outting yourself again.

                Weird. If only there was some way that Biden could have prevented this. If only he could have like, ya know, not sent people to die. This is just a self-own on Biden’s part.

                As for the timeline of govt attacks on journalists, oh would ya look at that: state police, state police, state police, state police.

                You mean the one that Biden ran? Well, yeah, you are right. It is a police state. Who funded and supported that? Oh, right, Biden.

                Not a single mention of Biden sending in feds! In fact, Biden revoked Trump’s executive order 13933 which Trump used to justify deploying feds to states during protests. He explicitly did not support calling in the National Guard or using federal forces to clear pro-Palestinian protests and left their policing up to, you guessed it, state police.

                Well, I guess we better tell the people who were arrested, tortured, raped, assaulted and sent to prison while Biden cheered on and funded the police doing it that, since it wasn’t the feds, Biden’s support was really him fighting against them. If only the helpless President had any kind of power in these situtations…

                Try again, muppet - maybe this time you’ll provide evidence that wasn’t handpicked for you by conservatives.

                So because someone I disagree with pointed out factual information, that means I should discard that information? Now I think I see why you are so confused about all of this. I follow data and facts, no matter who presents them to me. I find reality a lot easier to parse that way.

                Name policy, name direct action.

                I already did, but you refuse to look at it. I’ll leave that as an exercise to the reader, if they choose to actually try this time.

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                  Ah, so the president of the United states is actually meant to be an RTS tier hive mind who has full control all of his underlings. States don’t exist, they’re all arms of the fed and Biden is god of the verse.

                  You didn’t name a single policy. You didn’t name any action Biden took. You’re trying to ‘both sides’ just in time for the election because you are the definition of a bad actor. You are intellectually dishonest and, despite having already conceded that Kamala wouldn’t have damaged our democracy like Trump has, for some reason have chosen this hill to die on.

                  You’re in good company with the other accelerationist troglodytes in the fediverse.

                  Edit: Many of whom masquerade as leftists while being on the right, much like you!

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                    Ah, so the president of the United states is actually meant to be an RTS tier hive mind who has full control all of his underlings. States don’t exist, they’re all arms of the fed and Biden is god of the verse.

                    Nope. I never said or claimed that. But he has immense power to help out. Look at what Trump has done for his people. He’s gotten the out of all kinds of problems, but Biden was too busy bombing kids to do that.

                    You didn’t name a single policy. You didn’t name any action Biden took.

                    Yes I did. I listed a few actions Biden took. You should try reading them.

                    You’re trying to ‘both sides’ just in time for the election because you are the definition of a bad actor.

                    Well, I guess if accurately pointing out that both sides are doing similar things, then maybe the Democrats should prove me wrong. They had the opportunity, but never took the time.

                    A bad actor implies that I’m not genuine in my belief that genocidists, rapists, torturers and child-killers are bad. But I am genuine in that belief. I wish Liberals were as well.

                    You are intellectually dishonest…

                    You keep claiming intellectual dishonesty, but have yet to give any details or reasons why other than that you are’t going to read the provided data.

                    …despite having already conceded that Kamala wouldn’t have damaged our democracy like Trump has, for some reason have chosen this hill to die on.

                    She would have destroyed it a different way, just like Biden and Obama did. I think people having their lives ruined so that the rich and powerful can remain rich and powerful is bad, so yeah, I think it’s an important hill. It’s alway telling to me that Libs consider it no big deal when Democrats do that, or other horrific acts.

                    You’re in good company with the other accelerationist troglodytes in the fediverse.

                    Wut? I’m not an accelerationist. I’m actually trying to stop these things from happening. You are the one supporting them. I’m not sure how wanting to stop something makes me an accelerationist.