Now I know you don’t fully grasp how bad the CCP is.
You keep moving the goalpost. CCP is bad, not as bad as the USA, not as bad Saudi Arabia, not as bad as South Korea, not as bad as Israel.
The US government is pretty corrupt.
LOL. “pretty corrupt”.
Does the US government disappear political opponents?
It kills them with drone strikes. Also tortures them.
Does it require all companies over a certain size to have official party officers on staff, to ensure they are ‘paying their dues’ and not becoming too powerful.
You keep moving the goalpost. CCP is bad, not as bad as the USA, not as bad Saudi Arabia, not as bad as South Korea, not as bad as Israel.
I’m not moving anything. You started using whataboutism to compare China to the US. “The US is worse” and all that. While I disagree with you about this, it doesn’t matter. Multiple things can be true at once. China is bad. The US is bad. Israel is bad. These are all, simultaneously, true.
LOL. “pretty corrupt”.
Yes, pretty corrupt. They are still a government that follows laws. This is why Trump is currently facing legal problems instead of successfully overthrowing Biden in a coup. Currently, Biden cannot pass certain laws because it still requires both the Senate and the House to pass a new law.
You understand that the CCP is a dictatorship right? Single party with absolute control? These things are not the same.
It kills them with drone strikes. Also tortures them.
Terrorists and enemy combatants, yes. Not political opponents though. Is Biden ordering his political opponents locked up and tortured? No? These things are not the same.
From your link: “By law, NSLs can request only non-content information, for example, transactional records and phone numbers dialed, but never the content of telephone calls or e-mails.”
I am not arguing that the US does not do bad things, but that it is not comparable to the CCP. The US still generally tries to follow its own laws. The CCP can and does do whatever it wants.
Lol, this is a book which is widely discredited. The author is a conspiracy theorist, and little if anything of his claims have been verified. I would not use that book as your source of information.
Yes, by helping Israel and Saudi Arabia and Yemen do it.
If you do not see how these are not the same thing then we may as well move on.
Kimdotcom
So a very high profile person who flagrantly broke the law in multiple jurisdictions has led to the US asking for extradition, which is a thing many countries will do, and is still here. This is your example? Are you a high profile owner of a massive piracy platform? No?
No actual US citizens and their children. BTW all it takes for them to call somebody a terrorist is to call them a terrorist.
Yes, pretty corrupt. They are still a government that follows laws
Apparently you haven’t been keeping up with the news
From your link: “By law, NSLs can request only non-content information, for example, transactional records and phone numbers dialed, but never the content of telephone calls or e-mails.”
That’s because they already have access to the content from the NSA.
Lol, this is a book which is widely discredited.
LOL it hasn’t.
If you do not see how these are not the same thing then we may as well move on.
If you don’t see how it’s the same thing thing we might as well move on. There are actual genocides happening in Gaza and Yemen but hey since the US is helping with those that’s OK I guess.
So a very high profile person who flagrantly broke the law in multiple jurisdictions has led to the US asking for extradition, which is a thing many countries will do, and is still here.
He only broke US laws and his house was raided.
Again though you seem to think this is perfectly fine so there is no need to go on.
Yes, pretty corrupt. They are still a government that follows laws
Apparently you haven’t been keeping up with the news
I have.
That’s because they already have access to the content from the NSA.
They don’t, at least not how you are suggesting they do.
LOL it hasn’t.
It has.
If you don’t see how it’s the same thing thing we might as well move on. There are actual genocides happening in Gaza and Yemen but hey since the US is helping with those that’s OK I guess.
When did I say they were ok?
He only broke US laws and his house was raided.
Copywrite infringement is illegal in most countries, including here.
Again though you seem to think this is perfectly fine so there is no need to go on.
When did I say it was? I don’t think he should be extradited, but I’m not worried about the Big Bad US Government coming after me.
No, you’re right, he is charged with criminal copyright infringement, money laundering, racketeering and wire fraud.
But you are worried about the big bad Chinese government coming after you.
More than the US, yes. Why? Because of the reasons I’ve outline elsewhere: the US, as bad as it is, still has some laws and balances it must navigate. The Chinese government has none, and has actively shown to track and detain both citizens and foreigners.
I have lived and worked in China, so I am absolutely certain there is a file on me somewhere (I had a nice chat with a “totallynota” member of the CCP at my a company over drinks one night when he offered that they keep an eye on every foreigner in the country.
No, you’re right, he is charged with criminal copyright infringement, money laundering, racketeering and wire fraud.
He wasn’t charged with anything in NZ.
More than the US, yes. Why? Because of the reasons I’ve outline elsewhere: the US, as bad as it is, still has some laws and balances it must navigate.
Do you think if China accused you of copyright infringement NZ police would raid your house?
I have lived and worked in China, so I am absolutely certain there is a file on me somewhere (I had a nice chat with a “totallynota” member of the CCP at my a company over drinks one night when he offered that they keep an eye on every foreigner in the country.
And you are convinced the NZ government would do the bidding of the Chinese if the Chinese government decided to come after you right?
But what he did is illegal here just as well as in the states. What is your point? Do you own a massive piracy platform? If not, it’s not really comparable to you or I is it?
Do you think if China accused you of copyright infringement NZ police would raid your house?
No, but they could potentially detain me if I travel through there if I regularly bad-mouth the regime.
I really don’t get you mate. Are you saying that the US, a country that actually has laws and is not a dictatorship, is worse than an actual dictatorship with a long history of abuse.
AND EVEN IF IT WAS, why does that fucking matter? I don’t have to love the US if I dislike China. I can avoid both if I want. Your whataboutism is pointless.
And you are convinced the NZ government would do the bidding of the Chinese if the Chinese government decided to come after you right?
No, but other countries can and will. I do not have to worry about the US disappearing me if I say bad things about Biden. There is a small, but measurable, risk that this can happen if I badmouth the CCP and then travel to certain countries. Once again, asking another authority to arrest a massive international criminal is not the same as disappearing normal everday people because they said a bad thing about Winnie the Pooh.
But what he did is illegal here just as well as in the states.
Was he charged here?
What is your point? Do you own a massive piracy platform? If not, it’s not really comparable to you or I is it?
Anybody could become a target by breaking a US law.
No, but they could potentially detain me if I travel through there if I regularly bad-mouth the regime.
I am not talking about that. Would the NZ police raid your house and arrest you if China accused you of a crime? We know they would if the USA accused you of a crime.
I really don’t get you mate. Are you saying that the US, a country that actually has laws and is not a dictatorship, is worse than an actual dictatorship with a long history of abuse.
Yes I am. Being a democracy has nothing to do with anything.
. I do not have to worry about the US disappearing me if I say bad things about Biden.
They could kill you with a drone strike.
There is a small, but measurable, risk that this can happen if I badmouth the CCP and then travel to certain countries.
The USA will kill you right here if they want.
Once again, asking another authority to arrest a massive international criminal is not the same as disappearing normal everday people because they said a bad thing about Winnie the Pooh.
LOL. You really drank a lot of right wing kool aid if you believe Kim Dotcom wa s a massive international criminal.
You keep moving the goalpost. CCP is bad, not as bad as the USA, not as bad Saudi Arabia, not as bad as South Korea, not as bad as Israel.
LOL. “pretty corrupt”.
It kills them with drone strikes. Also tortures them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man
Yes, by helping Israel and Saudi Arabia and Yemen do it.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/dotcom-wins-settlement-from-police-over-the-2012-dawn-raid-which-saw-him-arrested/2EGYXEM64SKGMYHJPZ23QNIRO4/
I’m not moving anything. You started using whataboutism to compare China to the US. “The US is worse” and all that. While I disagree with you about this, it doesn’t matter. Multiple things can be true at once. China is bad. The US is bad. Israel is bad. These are all, simultaneously, true.
Yes, pretty corrupt. They are still a government that follows laws. This is why Trump is currently facing legal problems instead of successfully overthrowing Biden in a coup. Currently, Biden cannot pass certain laws because it still requires both the Senate and the House to pass a new law.
You understand that the CCP is a dictatorship right? Single party with absolute control? These things are not the same.
Terrorists and enemy combatants, yes. Not political opponents though. Is Biden ordering his political opponents locked up and tortured? No? These things are not the same.
From your link: “By law, NSLs can request only non-content information, for example, transactional records and phone numbers dialed, but never the content of telephone calls or e-mails.”
I am not arguing that the US does not do bad things, but that it is not comparable to the CCP. The US still generally tries to follow its own laws. The CCP can and does do whatever it wants.
Lol, this is a book which is widely discredited. The author is a conspiracy theorist, and little if anything of his claims have been verified. I would not use that book as your source of information.
If you do not see how these are not the same thing then we may as well move on.
So a very high profile person who flagrantly broke the law in multiple jurisdictions has led to the US asking for extradition, which is a thing many countries will do, and is still here. This is your example? Are you a high profile owner of a massive piracy platform? No?
No actual US citizens and their children. BTW all it takes for them to call somebody a terrorist is to call them a terrorist.
Apparently you haven’t been keeping up with the news
That’s because they already have access to the content from the NSA.
LOL it hasn’t.
If you don’t see how it’s the same thing thing we might as well move on. There are actual genocides happening in Gaza and Yemen but hey since the US is helping with those that’s OK I guess.
He only broke US laws and his house was raided.
Again though you seem to think this is perfectly fine so there is no need to go on.
I have.
They don’t, at least not how you are suggesting they do.
It has.
When did I say they were ok?
Copywrite infringement is illegal in most countries, including here.
When did I say it was? I don’t think he should be extradited, but I’m not worried about the Big Bad US Government coming after me.
He wasn’t charged with copyright infringement.
But you are worried about the big bad Chinese government coming after you.
No, you’re right, he is charged with criminal copyright infringement, money laundering, racketeering and wire fraud.
More than the US, yes. Why? Because of the reasons I’ve outline elsewhere: the US, as bad as it is, still has some laws and balances it must navigate. The Chinese government has none, and has actively shown to track and detain both citizens and foreigners.
I have lived and worked in China, so I am absolutely certain there is a file on me somewhere (I had a nice chat with a “totallynota” member of the CCP at my a company over drinks one night when he offered that they keep an eye on every foreigner in the country.
I also refuse to support such a regime.
He wasn’t charged with anything in NZ.
Do you think if China accused you of copyright infringement NZ police would raid your house?
And you are convinced the NZ government would do the bidding of the Chinese if the Chinese government decided to come after you right?
But what he did is illegal here just as well as in the states. What is your point? Do you own a massive piracy platform? If not, it’s not really comparable to you or I is it?
No, but they could potentially detain me if I travel through there if I regularly bad-mouth the regime.
I really don’t get you mate. Are you saying that the US, a country that actually has laws and is not a dictatorship, is worse than an actual dictatorship with a long history of abuse.
AND EVEN IF IT WAS, why does that fucking matter? I don’t have to love the US if I dislike China. I can avoid both if I want. Your whataboutism is pointless.
No, but other countries can and will. I do not have to worry about the US disappearing me if I say bad things about Biden. There is a small, but measurable, risk that this can happen if I badmouth the CCP and then travel to certain countries. Once again, asking another authority to arrest a massive international criminal is not the same as disappearing normal everday people because they said a bad thing about Winnie the Pooh.
Was he charged here?
Anybody could become a target by breaking a US law.
I am not talking about that. Would the NZ police raid your house and arrest you if China accused you of a crime? We know they would if the USA accused you of a crime.
Yes I am. Being a democracy has nothing to do with anything.
They could kill you with a drone strike.
The USA will kill you right here if they want.
LOL. You really drank a lot of right wing kool aid if you believe Kim Dotcom wa s a massive international criminal.