• I am absolutely not against getting away from fossil fuels. If it was for me, we would put 5% of every countries GDP towards building renewables and updating the grid to handle them.

    But while this is something that has to be done on a larger and organized scale, and while your alternatives for mobility might be limited, an easy choice for people is to eat less meat. Or at least substitute beef with lamb or chicken.

    One of the difficulties of climate change is that it os a complex problem requiring many approaches at the same time. But we can and should take the approaches within our reach and demand politics to take the approaches that have to he taken on a societal level.

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      But while this is something that has to be done on a larger and organized scale, and while your alternatives for mobility might be limited, an easy choice for people is to eat less meat. Or at least substitute beef with lamb or chicken.

      Food spans social, religion, race, culture, countries, regions and a ton of other things I can’t think of. In your little American bubble, you probably can survive perfectly fine if you choose to be a vegan. I live in Taiwan and don’t eat sugars/carbs. It’s so difficult to survive here with this simple restriction and I live in a 1st world country. China is the highest producer of emissions, and they are a 3rd world country.

      Sometimes it’s not a simple choice to eat less meat. Maybe it’s your culture to mostly consume meat. Again, even if you made everyone in the world to stop eating meat, nothing happens.

      One of the difficulties of climate change is that it os a complex problem requiring many approaches at the same time. But we can and should take the approaches within our reach and demand politics to take the approaches that have to he taken on a societal level.

      It’s a complex problem. We need complex solutions. Stop focusing your efforts on non-needle moving strategies that might work in an extremely narrow use case. It will only divide us since it shifts the blame from fossil fuels to the people.

      • I’m not american, what are you talking about?

        And quite frankly it would have tremendous impact if everyone would stop eating meat, because that accounts for about 10-20% of global ghg emissions.

        I’m sorry, but it is apparent that you are not arguing in good faith, if you are so hellbend on ignoring one major source of ghg emissions. It is scientifically well established, that changes to food consumption are one of the lowest hanging fruits and the meat overconsumption in the western countries does not only harm the climate but also is detrimental to peoples health. Restricting carbs is also not a “simple restriction”. It eliminates most plant based foods and then of course i understand why you are irrationally defensive against a simple statement of reducing meat consumption, since that must be your main source of nutritions.

        Finally, i don’t want to get too much into your beef about the one true China, but claiming China to be a third world country is not only historically incorrect as China was part of the “second world” as it is in economic terms today, since China is one of the strongest global economies and not at all comparable with countries in Subsaharan Africa or South America, that are considered “third world countries”.