• andyburke@fedia.io
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    5 months ago

    keep your anticheat code off my cpu and on the server where it belongs.

    wtf.

    why is this so fucking hard for developers to understand?

    • Ulrich@feddit.org
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      5 months ago

      Why is it so hard to understand that code on your CPU is far more effective?

  • MetalMachine@feddit.nl
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    5 months ago

    For everyone who says we don’t want ring 0 or kernel level “root kits” I would agree, but then whats the solution when you can easily defeat these anti cheat solutions by going kernel level?

    Genuine question, is there a solution?

    • Sudomeapizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      5 months ago

      There’s many solutions ive heard like

      • Associating an account with a Gov ID so bans are more permanent
      • Maybe a reputation system? get kicked enough, or downvoted enough and you get permabanned
      • many channels like ltt on the wan show and SomeOrdinayGamers (and many others) have talked about it extensively, but there’s always a drawback

      All these options are based on some level of trust with someone or something and can be easily taken advantage of, but these are concepts nonetheless.

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        5 months ago

        I dont know why the first solution is even a suggestion. It’s worse than having kernel/ring 0 anti cheat. You’re literally associating yourself by your real identity

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      5 months ago

      There is a 2-part solution:

      • Build a game people enjoy playing more than winning.
      • If you need an anti-cheat solution, design one on a server side.
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        5 months ago

        You can’t expect the assholes who need to win to “just enjoy the game” when they aren’t playing multiplayer games for that reason.

        As for point 2, every server-sode solution I’ve seen has just not worked lol. RuneScape comes to mind when I think of how much that seems to fail

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          5 months ago

          Point taken. Still, I think designing the game around positive things like team work and rewarding experiences is important.

          I can’t see why server side solutions won’t work when implemented properly. High ping? Just provide more servers and allow players to filter that out or do that automatically.

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    5 months ago

    I honestly really like the finals. If they’re this based I can’t wait to see a single player game from them.

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      5 months ago

      You might be waiting a while for that. Venture capital funded and so far have made a Battle Royale and an Extraction Shooter. Will probably be a Survival game next if a new trend doesn’t come along first.

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        5 months ago

        Battle Royale? Do you think the finals is a battle royale? Do you know what a battle royale even is? Because the finals is pretty obviously not a battle royale bro jfc.

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          5 months ago

          Battle Royale bro? Not in the strictest sense of “is it PUBG”, but it has a lot of the genre’s elements in there. It’s basically a hyper speed Hunger Games with heroes. I’d say it’s a fusion of BR and Hero Shooter for sure.

          The point is, it is about as far from a single player experience as you are going to get.

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            You’ve got to be joking me. It’s closer to an arena shooter than a battle royale. You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about.

            It’s basically a hyper speed Hunger Games with heroes

            Ok first there’s no fucking heroes. There are classes with specializations, but classes are the exact opposite of heroes. I guess Battlefield 3 is a hero shooter now bc they have classes? Second, if you think that this game has anything in common with hunger games you’re not just batshit, but then you also must think that literally every shooter is like hunger games.

            The point is, it is about as far from a single player experience as you are going to get.

            Oh holy shit stop the fucking presses. An online multiplayer fps is not a single player game? No way. My mind is absolutely blown this whole time I thought my friends in my party were npc’s and I was playing a single player game.

            it has a lot of the genre’s elements in there.

            There’s really no point in continuing this conversation, but please tell me what battle royale elements does the finals have? I mean specific game elements, not just saying something vague like “it’s like hunger games”.