• MisterD@lemmy.ca
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      2 years ago

      But it’s what my HateTV News channel tells me! They wouldn’t lie.

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    • ArbiterXero@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      The migrant isn’t the reason, no, but an oversupply of people and under supply of jobs will depress wages.

      So intentionally immigrating more people than the economy can bear will drive down the cost of labor.

      That’s the entire point of TFW and H1B

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    2 years ago

    Kind of a messed up take here but migrants are used as a tool by the proletariat to keep wages low and to push down wages. I see the perspective that C-Suite Individuals (CEO, COO, CFO, etc.) keep wages low and pocket the multi-million dollar change, but how do they justify it? “Market Rate” is a good way to deflect blame nowhere. Everyone’s moving labor outside of the US, and at least for me as a USA born working class individual, it weakens my ability to earn for my family.

    • Rekorse@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 years ago

      Would you say that limiting yourself to only “working class” jobs, whatever that means to you, is also weakening your ability to earn?

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        2 years ago

        I’m sorry if I’m being dumb but I don’t get what you’re asking. I work as a unionized engineer and then always try to keep a second side hustle job (cashier, waiter, etc.). When I was a non-union engineer I saw third party companies hiring people that were underqualified and across the globe, remotely taking jobs. As a waiter/cashier however, I didn’t see this at all. Although I was working minimum wage so I don’t think anyone would necessarily ask lower.

        The point I was trying to make is that, when I was making $35 an hour non-unionized, firms would offer to have remote engineers for $30 an hour. So now I’m effectively “over” market rate, and am at risk of being fired. This weakens my ability to earn for my family. If the latter didn’t exist, I could have asked for $40 an hour even. Thankfully I’m now unionized at around that rate so I’m okay. But for my friends that aren’t minimum wage, but aren’t flying stacks of money rich, they are constantly at risk of just being another budget issue.

        • Rekorse@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          2 years ago

          A variation in pay ranging from 30 an hour to 40 an hour, working full time puts you between 62k a year and 83k a year, if my math is accurate.

          I understand noone wants to make less money ever, but you are doing well no matter if you had to eat a pay cut or not, and you even say yourself you didnt have to. You either care more about making this extra money than your friends or were better qualified/had better connections so that you could maintain what you wanted.

          I dont understand how you can possibly say you have a stake in this argument. You are doing just fine, even if you choose to bring up all your past experiences and choices that make it so you “need” more money.