The US is supporting Israel through what we can mostly all agree is a genocide of the Gazans. Clearly, Biden isn’t a genocidal maniac, yet he’s all in with unwavering support. Why are we doing this? There has to be a logical reason that isn’t just “we want Israel to kill everyone in Gaza and take their land a la lebensraum.”

We know this is an emotional topic, so please be respectful of each other so that we can have open and clear authentic discussion on the matter.

    • JIMMERZ@lemm.eeEnglish
      9·
      10 months ago

      This is the most simple answer and the truth. Not only that, but our hands are generally tied to a fault when it comes to these allies. This is why Biden has had some words to say, but there’s no actual teeth to them. He literally can’t do shit. Any other administration would be the same.

      • Dark Arc@social.packetloss.ggEnglish
        4·
        10 months ago

        Well, Trump might do something because he’s willing to break any and all precedents … but the something he does would likely be much worse, impulsive, and generally lacking much forethought.

      • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
        33·
        10 months ago

        No he CAN do something, he can say fuck you, and let someone else run while he does the right thing regardless of the cost to his career

          • NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social
            11·
            10 months ago

            We have other bases in the Middle East, we don’t need them for a foothold.

            We can walk in, whip our dick out and ask who wants to be our new friend and under our protection.

            Israel is ignoring us anyway so I see no harm.

            Fall in line or fuck around and find out when we allow them to be outlaws and retract our protection.

            Sends a message while we are at it.

    • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
      63·
      10 months ago

      The U.S. will NEVER give up a military foothold in the middle east.

      They will, only once all the oil’s been extracted, which will take some decades yet.

      While it’s not a religious conspiracy, there is plenty of religious support from certain christian denominations, on the USA and other countries, because of some weird interpretation of the bible about Israelis getting their “promised land” back.

        • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
          11·
          10 months ago

          Oh, you mean that people who use religion to preach support for isreal aren’t real? The pastors in my country that do that during the cults and on TV must be a figment of my imagination, then!

            • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
              1·
              10 months ago

              I never implied said religious support happened at or was directed at the top of the hierarchy, political or military. Why you came to that conclusion eludes me. Let me quote myself:

              there is plenty of religious support from certain christian denominations, on the USA and other countries, because of some weird interpretation of the bible about Israelis getting their “promised land” back.

              My intent was pointing out that this is to generate public support. But I guess I’m the one “moving the goalposts” and being “intellectually dishonest” because I’m not replying to what you thought I was saying implicitly. Next thing you’ll tell me I’m trying to squirrel out of what you’re wrongfully accusing me of.