“Please acknowledge that everyone does a lil bit of nazi ethnic cleansing, both sides bro, which is why we have to support one of the sides bro (the side the epstein governments say are the good guys)”
You guys get fully incoherent when tasked with connecting any one data point to anything else. All you have at this point is project and whatabout. You have no defense of the fascists you carry water for.
You are equating “both sides” argument when the actual point made, is everyone is/should be subject to the same rules based order. No one should be exempt.
People from the perpetrating camps usually refuse to acknowledge that. Exactly the way the US does, exactly the Way Russia does.
Are you not allowed to acknowledge the international crimes of the Russia federation, like people can for the United States of America?
everyone is/should be subject to the same rules based order. No one should be exempt.
The rules based order set by the genocidaires of Gaza. The “you will follow our rules”-based order. The order that’s killed hundreds of millions and is currently on track to kill the entire planet so that a few rich freaks can keep raping kids. That order. That order whose stories about the world you believed. The “Iraq WMD” people.
People from the perpetrating camps usually refuse to acknowledge that.
Okay, do you acknowledge the 2014 coup of the democratically elected Ukranian government by the united states and the eight years of ethnic cleansing that followed?
Are you not allowed to acknowledge the international crimes of the Russia federation
No beep boop I’m an inhuman Russian bot whose consciousness lives on a yandex server, you can probably silence these nagging criticisms that you’ve swallowed epstein empire propaganda by sending more missiles into me. And lol, “the crimes” (gestures vaguely)
But yeah, gonna need you to acknowledge the ethnic cleansing by Ukranian nazis who have been since officiated into the military and government, because for some reason your only response to it being brought up is to deflect and whatabout🤔
A coup is when the military takes over a government.
What Ukraine had was a revolution, much like the russian revolution.
The government of the day fled, and parliament initiated elections to elect a new one.
Even Russia publicly recognized that new government.
Was there foreign influence in all parts of these events? Absolutely, illegal ones even. Just like the US meddles in the elections of other nations, other nations do the same. Generally the closer and larger the neighbour, the more it meddles. The US is absolutely providing backing to the Ukraine core government in their interests of containing Russia. And Russia was absolutely backing and inciting separatists in the Dombas to act as a barrier against the west.
On the violence and crimes in the Dombas, yes it exists, are ethnic Russian Ukrainians targeted by fascist, yes, there is sufficient evidence that is true. I don’t think Ukraine officially supported it, more a case of turning a blind eye. I also think Ukrainians were happy to see those fascist fight and die at the hands of the Russian invasion. Nobody likes fascists.
So back to Russia’s long history of genocide against its own citizens. Now that I have done the “you first” that you insisted on, will you recognise that Russia has engaged in similar acts of oppression and violence on its own citizens, or at least turned a blind eye to allow it to happen? Can you give some examples?
So are you saying it’s acceptable or not acceptable to send nazis kidnap, torture, murder and shell ethnic “undesirables”?
Why would you say that? I pointed out that it’s undesirable when anyone does it.
But as people accuse ukraine of doing it, please acknowledge that Russia does it, just others do now and in the past
“Please acknowledge that everyone does a lil bit of nazi ethnic cleansing, both sides bro, which is why we have to support one of the sides bro (the side the epstein governments say are the good guys)”
You guys get fully incoherent when tasked with connecting any one data point to anything else. All you have at this point is project and whatabout. You have no defense of the fascists you carry water for.
Why are you quoting that? No-one said that.
You are equating “both sides” argument when the actual point made, is everyone is/should be subject to the same rules based order. No one should be exempt.
People from the perpetrating camps usually refuse to acknowledge that. Exactly the way the US does, exactly the Way Russia does.
Are you not allowed to acknowledge the international crimes of the Russia federation, like people can for the United States of America?
The rules based order set by the genocidaires of Gaza. The “you will follow our rules”-based order. The order that’s killed hundreds of millions and is currently on track to kill the entire planet so that a few rich freaks can keep raping kids. That order. That order whose stories about the world you believed. The “Iraq WMD” people.
Okay, do you acknowledge the 2014 coup of the democratically elected Ukranian government by the united states and the eight years of ethnic cleansing that followed?
No beep boop I’m an inhuman Russian bot whose consciousness lives on a yandex server, you can probably silence these nagging criticisms that you’ve swallowed epstein empire propaganda by sending more missiles into me. And lol, “the crimes” (gestures vaguely)
But yeah, gonna need you to acknowledge the ethnic cleansing by Ukranian nazis who have been since officiated into the military and government, because for some reason your only response to it being brought up is to deflect and whatabout🤔
A coup is when the military takes over a government.
What Ukraine had was a revolution, much like the russian revolution.
The government of the day fled, and parliament initiated elections to elect a new one.
Even Russia publicly recognized that new government.
Was there foreign influence in all parts of these events? Absolutely, illegal ones even. Just like the US meddles in the elections of other nations, other nations do the same. Generally the closer and larger the neighbour, the more it meddles. The US is absolutely providing backing to the Ukraine core government in their interests of containing Russia. And Russia was absolutely backing and inciting separatists in the Dombas to act as a barrier against the west.
On the violence and crimes in the Dombas, yes it exists, are ethnic Russian Ukrainians targeted by fascist, yes, there is sufficient evidence that is true. I don’t think Ukraine officially supported it, more a case of turning a blind eye. I also think Ukrainians were happy to see those fascist fight and die at the hands of the Russian invasion. Nobody likes fascists.
So back to Russia’s long history of genocide against its own citizens. Now that I have done the “you first” that you insisted on, will you recognise that Russia has engaged in similar acts of oppression and violence on its own citizens, or at least turned a blind eye to allow it to happen? Can you give some examples?