I’d describe myself as politically “center-left” and I go on the streets against the far-right in my country… Not “left” enough for the lemmy community hexbear(.)net, I guess, which banned me for “facism”.

“Advertisement”: Go to hexbear(.)net if you want to be able to say “Death to Israel” or “The situation in Gaza is like the holocaust” without getting banned. No, you even get a lot of likes and no one will say anything against that. No one will share arguments against yours. Why? Because those people will instead get banned.

At least, I have an explanation now… There is no one arguing against what is posted there, because everyone who tries, is getting banned.

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      Uff not a good look for OP. Correct in the malicious behavior of the instance but downplaying the atrocities is not right.

      Regarding their comment on visiting concentration camps. People have visited. And the message is that even though the scale is now smaller in Gaza, it’s still wrong and the Israeli government is antisemitic in acting in the same methods the jewish people have been oppressed in history. In popular culture even the Polish film The Zone of Interest is related.

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      afaik sometimes socially awkward neurodiverse people get hit

      It always shatters my soul whenever I see someone in the mod log with “ban reason: reactionary” having gone through it myself. They basically use that reason for anyone they just want to get rid of because they find them annoying, because they know nobody is going to look into it.

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      Oh, Drama-Starting then publicly crying victim. Poster thinks the engine workd should be impressed with a gross opinion. Please

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    What tf are you even saying? Why are you defending the genocide?

    Zionism is fascism friend

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      Israel is a settler state, so what’s wrong with the destruction of it?

      You know… I think that the best that can be done at this point is: Solving this forever. It has been decades. Trying to destroy Israel is exactly the motto of Hamas and exactly the idea that hasn’t brought peace in the last decades and is also one of the reasons (not the only one) why the situation is terrible ATM.

      There have been multiple attempts to attack Israel and the consequence was always death. Even more death outside of Israel.

      IMO, the cycle needs to be broken. And IMO, this works only with government changes in both countries.

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        Holocaust does not defend the fact that Israel is a settler state. As an Indian from the erstwhile province of Madras, we have faced artificial famines and genocide from the British colonizers. High-level British officers and politicians who did injustice on Indians were killed brutally by the Indian leftists, including bombing and shootings, and they’re still worshiped to this day as heroes.

        So, by that standard, it would be hypocritical of me to see Hamas as a terrorist group. Read about Subhash Chandra Bose, Udham Singh, Bhagat Singh and other socialists from India. I see nothing wrong with their goals. Although the socialists failed to liberate India, it set the message out there for the imperialists that this territory of undivided India is not a welcoming place for the settlers.

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          Holocaust does not defend the fact that Israel is a settler state

          Holocaust??

          BTW: I did not even argue against the settlements argument.

          I see nothing wrong with their goals.

          I think, the main difference between us is: I’m always thinking how a solution could look like. How to end this?

          A solution works only with government changes in both countries and international pressure to get a 2-state-solution. That’s my point.

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        it has been decades.

        Yes it has, however, not all of the attempts at changing the situation were violent, most of the violence did come from Israel, but peaceful demonstrations and waiting didn’t help Gaza and Palestinians trapped in there. You know why?

        Because Israel isn’t going anywhere, their government won’t just magically change their mind, so just sitting there praying that it will end someday – won’t help. That’s why a violent and armed response was given to Israel.

        Saying:

        There have been multiple attempts to attack Israel and the consequence was always death.

        Is implying that people need to give up and not fight for their freedom. People are dying slowly but steadily? Well if you fight your situation, then a lot more will die, so just sit there, relax and enjoy the view of your cities drowning in poverty, without electricity or enough food to get through the day.

        If you really wanted this to end, you wouldn’t say:

        IMO, the cycle needs to be broken. And IMO, this works only with government changes in both countries.

        Because it is not possible. It’s not a cycle of violence that needs to be broken, but the entire system that enables violence against another group of people. How can you break a cycle of violence that you DIDN’T START? How can YOU change when YOU are the victim?

        This comment seems to be pro-peace and pacifistic, but it’s just a facade. In reality it defends the status quo of imperialistic and racist government having total control of the occupied land of another country, protecting their right to do anything they want with people living there because the alternative:

        was always death.

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    I quickly blocked all of hexbear’s socio-politically influenced communities. I however actually do enjoy engaging with their userbase on other more leisurely topics.

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    Yep, that’s some hardcore leftist echochamber. I’ve had a whole bunch of communities there blocked up until you could block entire instances, now they and lemmygrad are completely gone. Plus I’ve blocked about 50 of the most prolific users from either community who kept pushing their vitriol on other instances.

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      Except, they’re not really leftist; most of them support authoritarian regimes, like Russia and China. I’ve engaged with them about the war in Ukraine, for example, and their opinions on the matter ranged from “Ukraine should just let Russia win, because war is bad” to “Ukraine is full of Nazis, so go Russia”. If I had to make an historical comparison for them, I’d say that they’re basically like Mao’s red guards - kids with a little schooling under their belt who were nevertheless dumb enough to join a cult of personality for a bloodthirsty maniac.

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        Right, some angry clowns. I never tried to dig deep enough to understand what ideology they really support in the end, just know that every interaction I had was deeply unpleasant and hateful.

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    Correction: worst place to be a fascist. They are ruthless and rightfully so.

    Anticommunism is always profascism.

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      At this point, I’m not even sure what their interpretation of “left” actually means. But seeing so many “Death to Israel” posts with burning flags there was probably the most disgusting lemmy comments content I have seen so far. Maybe, I should block their domain in my router…

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        They’re not left; they’re Soviet conservatives. They LARP as leftists to sow chaos in the West

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            Remember when I called you a cryptofascist infiltrator on your now-banned alt? Now you’re leaving comments like this! Fucking called it!!!

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        I’d have to say the wanton killing of Palestinian children ranks a little higher on my disgusting meter, than a bunch of terminally online folks burning flags.

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          You know what? That’s actually true. I saw a report of Gaza doctors who described the injured patients. That was actually more disgusting. Totally on your side.

          I changed my comment to limit it on Lemmy user comments.

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        Yeah, going Israel on Israel won’t really solve the existence of antisocial tyrannical behavior in the world.

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      As long as you are an authoritarian, they love you. So sucking Hitler’s cock and sucking Stalin’s cock are the same thing to them. Just suck Putin’s cock, and you’re all good. That’s the proof. Suck the cock of anyone who murders lots of people for pleasure, and that’s all it takes to gain the approval of anyone on hexbear.net

      Anyone commenting from that instance is a literal fucking psychopath.

      Lemmy.ml used to be reasonable, but has become a puppet cone of it.

      I am very glad I have both of them blocked, so I don’t have to see the diarrhea of tantrums that will follow as replies to this comment. As a special note to all of the complainers, I very much look forward to all of the crybaby comments that will follow that I will never see.

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        So sucking Hitler’s cock and sucking Stalin’s cock are the same thing to them.

        Try even bringing up Hitler in a positive light and see how long you last there. Also, conflating the guys who did a genocide of Jewish people with the guys who basically single-handedly stopped it is literally massive amounts of antisemitism, but what do you expect from an .ee user?

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          .ee is an instance with good uptime, performance and wide federation to enable users with a lot of content. I don’t see it being a label to the users to any unified perspective.

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            They literally have a conservative /c run by a pedophile who the admin protects.

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              Oh shit I’ve missed the meta about that. Very worrisome and that must be handled. It still doesn’t implicate the users of anything.

              Edit: I browsed https://lemm.ee/c/meta for the past 9 months and couldn’t see a thread about that. I’d appreciate a link to be able to report such nefarious communities.

              Edit 2: If a user were to look for an general instance not associated with assholery, fast performance and timely updates, federating well and a growing user base so it hopefully doesn’t disappear one day, any hints where to look? Filtering https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list to ver 19.3. sorted by uptime and at least 100 users still gives over 70 options and many seem to be focused on niches, geographical areas or certain languages.

              You’re also commenting from an instance known for conservative & reactionary “management”, but I don’t think anybody should associate you with them just from a click on an instance home page.

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                Yeah i’ve had my issues with how ml moderates from time to time, i’ve considered jumping ship but I prefer being on the ‘omni-lemmy’ instance. One thing keeping me here is mostly that while the moderation does tend to suck at times (biasing towards not doing enough) they’re still pretty competent in most cases and especially not outright abusive like they are on other instances. I once got a warning from the admins for telling a pedophile (they were quick to give them a perma) to jump into a woodchipper and that’s it, I can admit that was something they had to take care of even though I 10,000% meant it, because that can get them into legal trouble.

                For what it’s worth I put ee above a lot of the problem instances. Every .de instance, dbzero (.de in all but name), sh.itfullof.nazis for example.

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      Here. 😔

      One of the biggest things I got in trouble for was arguing with Zeizek/Nietzsche apologists and the thing that did me in was call out one of the admin’s crypto-leftism (that is, a brand of cryptofascism that I was on the front line for when it came out, where you use crypto to infiltrate the left) and the worst thing out of all of that is that they branded me as a reactionary (basically a Liberal) in the modlog when they banned me.

      Also treated me like shit when I appealed, their behavior was so appalling that I actually picked up a supporter during all that. Basically what i’m trying to say is that lemmygrad is way better, have a lot of the same content and audience but way less cryptofash and baby leftist bullshit.

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      Criticising hierarchies and power structures within leftist or revolutionary struggles gets you there very quickly.

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      I’m from Germany.

      We have more political options than just “conservative or liberal” here.

      Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.

      Am I liberal according to that? yes.

      Liberty is the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one’s way of life, behavior, or political views.

      Am I liberal according to that? yes.

      But this applies probably to most of the people, probably also you.

      We have a German party calling themselves the liberals (FDP) and they fight for a more liberal economy, e.g. less control through the state. Do I vote for them? No. Too much focus on the rich…

      So, am I liberal in the end? Depends on how you define it.

      Maybe center-left is a better word…

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        You said you are a leftist. So when you’re being called liberal, it means you’re not a socialist. And that is bad, because even though you lean toward good social ideas, you support liberal capitalism. Liberalism in the sense of capitalism