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“As a mother, I cannot bear to watch their suffering. The children of the world belong to everyone. You are the only one of us who cannot be denied entry,” Madonna wrote in an Instagram post on Monday.
“Politics Cannot affect Change. Only consciousness Can. Therefore I am Reaching out to a Man of God,” Madonna wrote in the caption of her post.
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I don’t know. The new pope is american, so where do his interests lie? /s
That’s a very good question.
What possessed that conclave to come to that swift decision? What was the motivation?
The conclave states that they elected Pope Leo XIV because he is moderate, he has good administrative skills and the time he spent in the Americas will hopefully make him a unifying figure for the church.Meanwhile, I still haven’t gotten over the fact that the cardinals elected an American for a pope. I didn’t think that would ever happen. Ever.
Let me be clear, I mean no disrespect to anyone (the church, it’s allies and enemies). Like it or not, that position yields power and there are approximately 1 billion Catholics in the world today.
Pardon the long rant. The short answer is: The pope serves the church.
Just what the situation called for, Catholics!
No, send the Dalai Lama instead. If it all goes pear shaped he can respawn.
Jokes about genocide are my favorite. It’s this sort of internet attitude of who can find the best one liner that makes people so goddamn complacent. We read news about people literally being slaughtered and starved and people are still trying to make fuckin jokes.
I’m fully convinced this framing and attitude is why we aren’t doing a goddamn thing about our generation’s fucking holocaust.
Edit: I’m not going to be able to respond to anyone, but I will stand my ground. Maybe I was a little annoyed, but my point remains. If we are all consuming news via social sources like this nowadays (which, we are), and people read horrifying news—when the first thing they see in the responses is some joke about the situation, it absolutely blunts the emotional impact. People complain about how no one is doing anything? Maybe it’s because of the way we discuss the problem. People jump to make the stupid joke and that being the first thing seen after the ongoing news of horrific genocide and starvation, it absolutely has an effect on the way we start to react to this news. As time has gone on, if all we’re offering is “gallows humor” in response to genocide, then what the fuck. I would contend that this isn’t the form gallows humor has taken historically. Because the format has changed. I dunno. It just seems, if the world isn’t gonna respond to this genocide, literally the least we can do is not offer “gallows humor” as literally the only response. Just one persons opinion. Which you all don’t like, but hey. Someone’s gotta say it
Gallows humour has been used as a coping mechanism for a long time before the internet.
I’m fully convinced this framing and attitude is why we aren’t doing a goddamn thing about our generation’s fucking holocaust
And what exactly have you done to stop it?
You act like we all have this power to stop it but just choose not to use it but the reality is there isn’t much a normal person can do on their own.
The best we could have done was to vote for someone who didn’t support what’s going on and I think the majority of us here probably did and it still failed.
We could all have a revaluation but we aren’t even doing that for our own domestic issues so why would we do it for something happening on the other side of the world? That kind of thing needs a leader or a catalyst that just hasn’t stepped forward yet.
By all means board the next flotilla, i’ll cheer you on.
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Dang, I have water wars, nuclear wars, eldritch invasions … but what I don’t have on my 2025 conflict bingo card is the Crusades.
What the hell, dewit, might be interesting, something do disperse all the monotony of rising fascism, rapid climate change, and genocides.
what I don’t have on my 2025 conflict bingo card is the Crusades
Literally the title of the US Secretary of Defense’s book.
The Crusades were dark times especially with the Knights Templars at the Pope’s disposal. The height of their power and tragic end is incomparable to anything that I know of today.
If the photogenic Swiss Guards are anything like the Swiss Army, they wouldn’t be capable of invading anyone except Lichtenstein, lol.
Much love and No disrespect to the Swiss, their Army and the Swiss Guards
EDIT: Clarified the difference between Swiss Guards and Swiss Army with links from Wikipedia and We Are The Mighty.
Dang, just took the whole war romanticism out of by sarcastic remark about the renewal of the crusades :(.
So you are saying Vatican doesn’t have holy hand grenades, holy dove fighter jets, holy cherub bombers, holy drones dispersing holy water & holy napalm, etc?
Ugh, sorry. I wasn’t trying to crush your groove. FWIW, I do admire your sense of humor and bringing up the Knights Templar was romanticizing war…
So you are saying Vatican doesn’t have holy hand grenades, holy dove fighter jets, holy cherub bombers, holy drones dispersing holy water & holy napalm, etc?
Seriously?!? I have so much holy water from the Vatican replenished each year that it may be enough to end the drought in Gaza. You want a holy machete? You got it! You want a holy cow? You got it! But not on Fridays. You want an aerial assault with holy water balloons? You got it.
Better yet, I can send you some holy water to make your own holy 💩! Be warned: sprinkling your doors and windows each night with holy water will not stop vampires from entering your home! 😂
bringing up the Knights Templar was romanticizing war
Lol, yes but fake romanticising ofc, the whole thing was always just individual money-grabs & war profiteering (you can clearly see where the war support stops - once they get them out the gates, unprepared but equipped). Like any war really.
And no, vampbros are chill. And holy water probably makes them sparkle or some shit like that. They are too hot as is.
… do you think Vatican has a giant holy mecha pope wielding dual nunchucks (that is two pairs of nuns tied together with a heavy duty chain)?
No, it’s not Twilight - it’s Dracula (Bram Stoker read through by chapter). Enjoy.
I’m guessing the IDF would love to add a pope to their list of victims.
I hate to say it, but if that’s what it takes to get Nettanyahu and his Zionist cronies turned into red mist, it might be worth it. But also in 2025 I’m not entirely sure anything would happen outside of some “condemnation.”
Unless the Vatican decides to reboot the Crusades, which also sounds about right for this Indiana Jones timeline we’re all living in.
Bullshit, if they bomb the pope and kill him, half the world would be furious. I thinks its stupid one person matters so much more than millions though
Imagine telling someone in the 90s that Madonna would send a message to the Catholic pope, asking for a favour, and that pope is from Chicago
Pope: “Who is this Madonna?”
Advisor: “Has-been musician popular in 80s gay clubs… or, um, so I’ve been told, your Holiness.”
I don’t know about you guys, but I didn’t have “Madonna asking The Pope Formerly Known As Bob to save Gaza” on my 2025 bingo card…
These are strange times for Berry Club. Strange times indeed…
She’s right. Idk why this has to come from a pop star but she’s right.
A catholic isnt gonna do much to change a judaean mind
I commend Madonna for sending this message and I have such deep respect for her.
May this genocide come to an end. And how I wish it never happened.
In this moment, perhaps we’re all just material girls…
In this case, she wants Papa to preach
Life is a mystery.
Everyone must stand alone
Awww… she thinks it’s not already too late…
It’s not too late. The death that is coming dwarfs the death so far.
the AIPAC has all the western countries by the balls, both in blackmail and using thier 'anti-semitism" shield to hide behind.
As the head catholic leader, what authority will he realistically have there?
The Pope speaking out on the ongoing genocide can help build support among Catholics to pressure political leaders to do something over than empty words.
I don’t think it’s about authority, but if Israel is stupid enough to kill the Pope, I imagine most of the catholic world would immediately turn on them. That could be enough to pressure other nations to finally get involved and put a stop to the genocide.
The last time a Pope was known to be killed was 1303, and only as a technicality as he died after being released.
Someone also tried to kill John Paul II.
It would be unprecedented if a Pope died in a war zone.
Absolutely none.
He is a religious leader who greeted the people with his Message of Peace when he first became pope. Perhaps now is a good time to express that message outside of Rome along with a message of goodwill toward all.
Many Christians feel that he should visit Gaza anyway because of the church that was damaged from an Israeli airstrike and the recent bombing of a church where people claim sanctuary.
They won’t kill the pope. He’s white.
They’ll see a cross and they’ll treat is as a target, like they usually do with paramedics
I wouldn’t bet that the IDF won’t use him as target practice.
They’ll kill almost anyone who brings help and food. The Pope would be a bigger gamble.
“As the head of a religion that claimed your religion as our own and made it all about the gentiles, stop, mmkay?”
I would have expected Sinéad O’Connor to make that call. It would have been more in character.
Look, I know her name is Madonna, but I don’t think she has the same power over the vatican that the actual madonna would have.
