I’m not vegan because I give a fuck about animals. I’m vegan because I hate plants.
Green dudes have had it too good for too long.
They are out there lording their massive advantage in cumulative biomass over us. Fucking plants. I can’t wait to eat some tomorrow.
As pointed out above, if you hate plants, you should eat as much meat as possible. Every kilo of meat represents at least ten kilos of plants eaten by the animal.
I don’t want another animal taking my Freudian pleasure. The erotic joy of voring a verdant, fleshy succulent. Feeling the crunching snap of brutality as an innocent plant is ground between my glistering molars. The swallow; the mulched, peppery bolus peristalted down a wet, hungry, pulsing oesophegus. The conversion of what was once a marvel of evolution, a being that could harness the power of a living star, into fodder for my next bowel movement. From stoma to stoma.
This is not some cool, by-the-numbers optimisation. This is raw, visceral, hungry cruelty.
The old adage can be given greater, poetic specificity. Revenge is a dish best served cold. And it is a salad.
I tip my hat to you
Fuck plants, all my homies hate plants!
Me playing remnant
Cool Fact: Vegans consume a total of less plants than omnivores. Animals eat plants, so if you eat them, you’re eating an animal plus everything it ate to grow up.
I absolutely agree, eating meat should count as eating at least one salad too.
Take that, doctor.
Animals on average convert about 10% of the mass they eat into their own body mass.
So when a lion dies and turns to grass, the antilopes only get back 10% of the grass they ate to make meat for the lion.
Circle of life, my ass. More like a trickle down pyramid scheme.
It’s even less. The Antilope converts 10% of grass to meat, the lion converts 10% of Antilope meat to lion meat. So it’s 10% of 10% bringing us back to the root problem of everything… The 1%!!!
I mean, obviously you won’t get 100% of the energy back because most of it is spent on heating you up and moving and also heating you up, but yeah, I feel like God could’ve really done with some optimization techniques.
Only a matter of time before plant-based alternatives fully take over from meat. Meat farming is not sustainable, as you mention all the land used to farm food for animals could be used to just farm more food for us directly.
We just have to get rid of the stigma around plant-based “meat”.
At this point it isn’t so much the stigma as it is the price for a lot of us. If it was the same or cheaper than regular meat prices in my area I would buy it instead.
Prices are coming down, but they won’t come down a lot until more people buy it, but more people wont buy it unless it’s cheaper…
Here’s hoping there’s some more restrictions imposed on meat.
Yea it’s a catch 22 unfortunately.
Huh. Now that you mention it, even where I live i actually didn’t hear any comments after soy shit fell. I didn’t notice. Still ain’t buyin substitute cu I love meat but it’s no longer due to hearing how bad it tastes - in fact I did hear some good comments lately.
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Yeah, we can’t really eat grass, but thinking that most cattle nowadays actually graze is… inaccurate, to put it mildly.
Factory-farmed cattle are almost always fed grain made of corn and soy, both of which are completely fine for humans to eat, in case someone was unaware.
Producing 1kg of beef takes several kilos of feed.
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Grass fed: small minority of beef cattle, finished on grain after grazing for about a year. Typically slaughtered at 18-24 months of age.
Grass finished: even smaller minority not fed grains and allowed to graze their entire lives. Typically slaughtered around 18-24 months of age.
Normal: majority raised in feedlots on heavy grain-based diets. Typically slaughtered closer to 16 months of age.All are slaughtered well shy of the 20+ year life expectancy of a cow in a sanctuary.
I grew up with an uncle who raised steer and the sheer amount of land it took just to grow the corn and grass they ate was astounding. The animals also needed constant medication to stop them getting each other sick due to diet and proximity. So that’s the regular non organic, non grass fed/finished reality. With human population the way it is that kind of farming is pretty much the only way we can sustain eating meat in the amount we do.
I wonder, realistically, how much land it would take to produce our meat, at the current rate of consumption per capita, to grass feed/finish all those animals.
According to this study, we would have needed an area about three quarters the size of Texas to meet 2010 demand. Who knows what it would be today. https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/2/2/127
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Yeah, instead of using that land to grow monocultured grass, we could use it to grow plants we do eat. It’s not like we would keep growing grass there and say “Darn! We can’t eat this grass!”, we wouldn’t need to plant plants we don’t eat in the first place.
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I totally agree, lawns are a huge waste of space and resources. I’ve torn up every lawn on every property I’ve rented or owned and replaced it with local plants for native pollinators (honeybees are invasive and harm native pollinators).
I’d agree if there would ba a “could” in there or something. The reality is that a lot of soy (that humans can digest) is fed to animals…
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I am someone who would have not lived though childhood with out the ability to have both the protein and calories I got from eating meat. (I couldn’t do dairy as a child either)
A soy allergy isn’t a death sentence. Eggs exist, and so do tons and tons of other sources of protein.
Cannabis seeds, for one, are great source of protein and contain all the essential aminoacids.
I was unaware of the term “grain finished”, so I looked it up.
When beef is grain-finished, cattle are free to eat a balanced diet of grain, local feed ingredients, like potato hulls or sugar beets, and hay or forage at the feedyard.
You’re not seriously suggesting that most cattle enjoy such conditions?
If you just plain do the math of the area needed for grazing versus the average consumption of beef per capita you can see that most cattle is definitely not just “grain finished”.
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Yeah, eating soy with a severe soy allergy can lead to anaphylactix shock, but having a soy allergy doesn’t mean you won’t be able to get protein elsewhere, meaning you just have to not eat soy.
You can easily die of lactose intolerance as well. Diarrhea is historically in like the top 3 causes of death.
I assume you mean hemp seeds? Right?
The plant is called cannabis.
“Hemp” is for people who don’t understand that “hemp” is a political term and that “hemp seeds” are in fact cannabis seeds and that even the most psychoactive cannabis has no psychoactive alkaloids in the seeds.
No I don’t think Grain finishing is a good thing
Not what I asked. I asked if you seriously think most cattle is “grain finished” when literally a vast majority of the world’s cattle is fed solely on feed and never even see grass.
“Feel free to show me, I’m unable to back up anything I said and I think it’s up to you to disprove me instead of me being able to support the things I’m saying.”
And you talk about being annoyed by people who don’t know what they’re talking about?
Which country’s data should we use?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/land-use-per-kg-poore
https://www.statista.com/statistics/269236/grazing-land-worldwide-by-region/
There’s the data
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This seems like a dubious line of reasoning. It’s like making the claim that if you eat moss your net water consumption is lower than if you eat the leaves off an oak tree because of all the water it takes to grow. I mean I guess it’s sort of true but it’s also sorta weird. The argument is basically eat closer to the bottom of the food chain and the younger the better, but I don’t think you’re going to be happy if people eat more puppies and veal…
So it’s about efficiency. A given organism is going to have a particular conversion ratio in terms of how much mass/calories/nutrients whatever you’re measuring it has to take in to increase it’s own content an equivalent amount.
Since the vast quantity of food consumed by animals goes into energy rather than body mass they’re very inefficient. Particularly larger creatures like cows which “waste” (obviously not from the cow’s perspective) that energy breathing, moving, pumping blood, digesting, feeling and so on.
Infants are probably less efficient, as pregnancy is very stressful biologically.
Except 95% of what an animal eats ends up back in the soil as manure.
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If you ever had a clue, it died of terminal loneliness.
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Plants make oxygen, animals make poop
If the vegans win then we’ll no oxygen to breathe, only poopThis is the future vegans want
I’d agree with you, that also means more farts. And farts are funny. Do you hate comedy?
I’ve been acclimatizing to a fart-only lifestyle by micro dosing on e-girl farts I buy online.
80% of my oxygen and 30% of my calories I get from farts now.
Imagine this, but with no context
I’m going to crawl into a burlap sack and throw myself off a bridge like an unwanted litter of kittens.
Comedy means laugh and laugh means consuming more air . Do you wanna help vegans win ?
That’s it, now I’m gonna go eat twice as many legumes as I usually eat just because of this post!
You’ll never stop us, mwahahahaha!
Dammit, who ate the fucking forest again?!
vegan btw
Based and B12-pilled
You don’t need B12 pills, you just need to touch grass (with your tongue)
No!
Surrender the plants
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It’s funny, but obligatory cattle rearing requires more crop fields to sustain than simply eating the crops ourselves.
NEMATODES!!!
Honestly we can’t stop vegans. What we need to do is imprison in a giant chamber that artificially grows grass
Yes, sounds awesome! And let’s embed that chamber in a massive near-vacuum, so if you try to leave it, you suffocate. Also, it’s a giant, spinning blob in the middle of nowhere, with a gravity center at its core so you physically can’t even get away from it without a massive propulsion system and then what - go to the next random blob that offers nothing? Haha, I like your idea!
Goddamit vegans
Reminder to keep eating lamb and cows because they want to eat all the grass on the planet leaving only desert behind.
My uncle has a forest that he really loves.
