So I made a comment on worldnews criticizing Chinese activity in the south china sea and apparently got banned for it by the automod. This happen to anyone else? Is this Lemmy’s version of the need help post and the shape of things to come?

The instance I posted in was Lemmy.ml

    • Delta_V@lemmy.world
      51·
      7 months ago

      not just private ownership, but structures that ensure an increasingly concentrated private ownership by ever fewer people who use that advantage to create a set of rules that further increases the ownership gap

      ie a system where the owners of capital get to make the rules

      capitalism is antithetical to democracy

    • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
      21·
      7 months ago

      It is though. This is what people mean when they say so much of internet leftism is outdated and misinformed.

      Treating capitalism as a Boogeyman is outdated. Capital modes of production are a tool which can be wielded by market socialists towards the ultimate goal of post scarcity, classless society, the same as any other other economic structure. Putting dirty words in in a particular historical box is just as dumb as worshipping those words. It’s modernist garbage, plain and simple, and all to often this gets manifested as braindead “everything I hate is capitalism.”

      The goal of socialism is worker control of production. This is often in conflict with capitalism in practice, but is not orthogonal to capitalism in theory. This is a large part of contemporary leftist theory which has developed over the past 50 years, and dismissing it reveals pretty stark amateurism imo

      • barsoap@lemm.ee
        2·
        7 months ago

        Capital modes of production are a tool which can be wielded by market socialists

        You’re playing semantics and the “modes of production” stuff is like the weakest stuff in Marx. Market socialism still means the abolishment of the capitalist class (nowadays “the 0.1%”), therefore, can’t be capitalist, the primary distinction after all being class relations, and not mode of production.

        There’s been a ton of equivocation of capitalism with market economies which is probably where all this is coming from. You can have markets with socialism, you can have markets with capitalism, but you can’t have socialism with capitalism.

        • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
          21·
          7 months ago

          Yes, it would definitely seem that way if your primary exposure to leftist ideas was leftist internet forums, where leftism is primarily about revolutionary fan service and gatekeeping leftism.

    • cabbage@piefed.social
      68·
      7 months ago

      I guess there’s this American sense of capitalism as an ideological commitment to letting the forces of the marketplace run wild, and that once you regulate the markets it’s not capitalism any more. That’s laissez-faire though - there are other forms of capitalism as well. In the broadest sense capitalism basically boils down to having a market economy, which a lot of leftists are in favour of.