Not OC: Just found this on my old hard drive while grabbing some other stuff.

    • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgOPEnglish
      100·
      9 months ago

      As a sysadmin, I concur. Though the Neo panel in the bottom right should have also been another middle finger. If not that, then the Curb Your Enthusiasm meme where he’s like “Fuck you, and I’ll see you tomorrow” lol.

      • nick@midwest.social
        43·
        9 months ago

        A fellow sysadmin, I thought we went extinct. I had to pivot to “infrastructure engineer” but it’s basically the same thing nowadays.

        • li10@feddit.ukEnglish
          561·
          9 months ago

          Job titles in IT don’t mean anything these days.

          In particular, the term “engineer” has been butchered beyond recognition.

          • nick@midwest.social
            28·
            9 months ago

            Wait so you’re telling me I’m NOT an engineer?

            Agreed. I usually say developer because I view engineers as people who do actual engineering. I’m more of a plumber who fits pipes (pieces of software) together.

            • li10@feddit.ukEnglish
              7·
              9 months ago

              My first job was as an “engineer”.

              I spent most my time resetting passwords and setting up Outlook…

            • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
              51·
              9 months ago

              Wait so you’re telling me I’m NOT an engineer?

              Are you licensed by the state? There’s your answer!

              • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
                1·
                9 months ago

                These days it’s more “do you have an engineering degree from an accredited University.”

                The vast majority of engineering diplomas are not in licensed areas.

            • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              2·
              9 months ago

              Iirc it’s full blown illegal to call yourself an engineer in Canada unless you’re a licensed engineer. Meaning that if you marketed yourself as a software engineer without an engineering license, you could technically get in trouble. Not that I think they really enforce that for “Software Engineer”.

        • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgOPEnglish
          261·
          9 months ago

          Not quite extinct, but endangered.

          Thankfully there’s been a recent trend of companies pulling back out of the cloud because reality set in and they’re neither saving money nor getting a better experience than they had with their on-prem solutions.

          So, if that trend holds, we’ll hopefully go from endangered to merely threatened.

        • BassTurd@lemmy.world
          4·
          9 months ago

          I have two weeks left as a sysadmin and I’m transitioning to development. My experiences in sysadmin are a big reason I got in the door with little coding experience. A lot of devs don’t have an in depth knowledge about computers outside of programming, and knowing that extra stuff can certainly raise the ceiling.

  • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
    641·
    9 months ago

    Gosh the QA column is depressingly accurate for shitty game companies.

    The best thing to take away from this meme isn’t “lol QA dumb” or “lol Designers eat paint” it’s “fuck, what kind of toxic asshole legitimately feels this way about their coworkers” and yea, they exist - I’ve met them. Don’t be one of those assholes.

    • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      44·
      9 months ago

      Having been a sysadmin you would be surprised at both the amount of times I had to explain why we couldn’t just put an unprotected endpoint outside the firewall and also how much alcohol I drank to cope with the former.

      It is like being builder to architects that think you can have a second story just floating in midair. I am baffled by how ignorant of the basics of infrastructure many developers are.

      Obviously I don’t expect a website dev to know the details of like iptables configs for load balancing with failover or whatever. Or even be terribly familiar with how to set up a production web server. I do expect people to know stuff like every computer on the internet is under constant attack from scripts. Or that taking advantage of peoples’ trust and leaking their data is bad actually.

        • fishpen0@lemmy.world
          5·
          9 months ago

          Averages are fun. It’s likely Opsy roles do have the highest average. But it’s also very true that devs have the highest ceilings. There’s just very few devs making 600+ and the majority at 120-150. Then there is an absolute shit load of opsys making 160-200. So in ops you hit the ceiling super fast while the occasional dev just keeps rocketing to bullshit pay but the averages are what they are

          (Hiring manager for devops. I get the raw data through a corporate data broker)

    • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      9 months ago

      OMG yes we need a customer addition and a security addition. It’s so hard to find a place to work with a competent AND reasonable ISSM

  • 🐍🩶🐢@lemmy.worldEnglish
    35·
    9 months ago

    Only people I ever have a problem with are Project Managers. I have had way more bad experiences with utterly psychotic PMs than PMs who are actually good at their job. Everybody else is super cool, but I swear all of you are alcoholics. At least Sales pays for the drinks?

      • zaphod@lemmy.caEnglish
        34·
        9 months ago

        Or burned out because they get pulled into every project that’s gone off the rails.

        • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
          6·
          9 months ago

          Yup, before I went into tech I worked at an architecture firm and we had this one absolutely amazing PM from Australia who was smart, a clear communicator, and so much more on top of his shit then any other PM, and he burnt out and quit and moved back to Australia after like 2 years because they just kept throwing him into the absolute biggest messes since he was clearly the best at cleaning them up.

          He’s also the one who I got drunk at an airport bar with and just repeatedly urged me to leave the company and go somewhere well run … there were pretty clear signs he wasn’t enjoying his assignments.

          • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
            21·
            8 months ago

            Your failure to provide a reliable source for your claims is not my problem.

            If you cannot provide a reliable source of your claims, your claim will be dismissed.

        • sheogorath@lemmy.world
          3·
          9 months ago

          Ohhh that’s me right now. I work in a consultancy and I only got assigned to projects that are on fire. It’s almost 24 months without a gap between projects. Help me ಥ⁠_⁠ಥ

          • 🐍🩶🐢@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            9 months ago

            Put your foot down, establish boundaries, and take a well deserved vacation with 0 communication to work while on it. Otherwise, I would start looking somewhere else. Your health is more important.

            Edit: Also, hit them a few times with your Wabbajack for me.

          • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
            2·
            9 months ago

            Help me ಥ⁠_⁠ಥ

            “For those of us who are about to die, we salute you!”

            I’m hoping you’re not just an employee of that consultancy, but a contractor instead, and that you charge a good hourly rate, considering the situation you’re in.

  • Conyak@lemmy.tfEnglish
    252·
    9 months ago

    As someone who has been working in IT for 20+ years this is completely inaccurate except for the sys admin column.

  • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
    21·
    9 months ago

    Is “IT” a general term for tech workers in some places? I keep seeing people refer to it as such, but where I am, it is a term which primarily describes networking and infrastructure professionals.

      • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
        7·
        9 months ago

        Yes, that is consistent with my understanding - networking and infrastructure. Engineering and management is generally not considered IT where I am unless they are directly supporting networking and infrastructure. But someone writing code for a game or app wouldn’t be IT.

        • orbitz@lemmy.ca
          71·
          9 months ago

          Software devs and designers usually fall under IT is my understanding but I can see why many people/places would make the distinction. Especially for companies that only write software, their IT would more be the infrastructure, but if they’re only writing software for in house use that’s more on the IT side. I could be completely wrong about this too, just how I saw them grouped.

        • tweeks@feddit.nl
          3·
          9 months ago

          The wiki link states software to be included in the definition. Management is not IT of course, but as there exists management in IT is used in the image I’d guess.

          • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
            3·
            9 months ago

            Right, there is definitely a software side of IT, but not all software is IT adjacent. IT software is really a very small field these days, compared to software in general.

    • thirteene@lemmy.world
      4·
      9 months ago

      Network engineering is kind of in the middle where you take the skill set of help desk and office management. This often leads to help desk and software development both falling under the organization in information technology. Application support also often falls under this category.

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
    20·
    9 months ago

    The great promise of the cloud was to outsource sysadmins to be Microsoft and Amazon’s problem.

    • maynarkh@feddit.nl
      20·
      9 months ago

      At the cost of getting new sysadmins who are less numerous, but ask for more money, and best of all, you get to pay Microsoft and Amazon to train them!

        • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          5·
          9 months ago

          “Yeah we’re familiar with this issue design, and have opened 17 support requests and upvoted 5 user voice posts to Microsoft about it. But hey we have this workaround that is not maintainable that you can use meanwhile”

    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      13·
      9 months ago

      That absolutely was a huge part of the marketing pitch, but as one who supports his company’s cloud infrastructure…

      Lol. Rofl. Lmao even.

      Maybe that works for places that don’t have heavy tech needs. Maybe.

    • MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca
      5·
      9 months ago

      They said that about computers going to make books disappear forty years ago… They never printed so many books that attempted to explain how those damn computers worked!

  • pixxelkick@lemmy.world
    192·
    9 months ago

    I feel like this is more “how we feel we get perceived by others” moreso.

    I try and perceive all the members of my team as, well, my team. I heavily appreciate everyone busting their assess off and contributions.

    However, there are folks on each layer that do actually treat others like this and I think we can all agree those people suuuuck.