• Cyrus Draegur@lemmy.zip
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    15 hours ago

    Zelenskyy did it. Ukraine would no longer exist as a sovereign nation today if he didn’t; it would have been entirely annexed into Russia right now.

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      13 hours ago

      Exactly. In the US right now, only a comedian is capable of getting the joke. It works everywhere else it’s been tried. Vote Stewart!

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      9 hours ago

      I mean, Trump did it and he was a fucking TV clown. The bar is really, really, reaaaaaaally low for who can become the next US president.

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        Probably not. It’s pretty common in history that leaders that are great In crisises aren’t as great in peace times. But it doesn’t really matter because what Ukraine needed was the president they had.

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      14 hours ago

      It’d be a better analog if everything else Zelenskyy has done as president wasn’t eclipsed by Russia invading. Would he have been considered a good president if that hadn’t happened? We’ll never know.

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        13 hours ago

        He stepped up as a leader when his nation needed him. That is one of the best qualities to have. Anything else is just whatsboutism that can be applied to anyone.

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          13 hours ago

          Nobody is questioning his bravery or accomplishments, but peacetime politics require particular skills.

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            13 hours ago

            The US is in far from normal times. It may not be a military war (yet) but this sure as hell isn’t “peacetime”

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        13 hours ago

        Would he have been considered a good president if that hadn’t happened? We’ll never know.

        A quick glance back shows very much no. However, he stepped up for the war.