Last month Trump vowed to defend Christianity and urged Christians to vote for him

“This is really a battle between good and evil,” evangelical TV preacher Hank Kunneman says of the slew of criminal charges facing Donald Trump. “There’s something on President Trump that the enemy fears: It’s called the anointing.”

The Nebraska pastor, who was speaking on cable news show “FlashPoint” last summer, is among several voices in Christian media pressing a message of Biblical proportions: The 2024 presidential race is a fight for America’s soul, and a persecuted Trump has God’s protection.

“They’re just trying to bankrupt him. They’re trying to take everything he’s got. They’re trying to put him in prison,” author, media personality and self-proclaimed prophet Lance Wallnau said in October on “The Jim Bakker Show”, an hour-long daily broadcast that focuses on news and revelations about the end times that it says we are living in.

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    Doesn’t say much good about a person’s god if Donald Trump is their envoy. Of all the people god could send, they chose him… 😏

    May all pussies–man, woman, and every gender–be fortunate enough to experience the grab of his glorious, tiny, and orange hand.

    Amen.

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    If I believed that an antichrist could exist, I would be convinced it was Donald Trump. He is the opposite of what Christianity teaches yet somehow he’s become their Messiah.

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    Hilarious to me that trump checks nearly every box for the literal antichrist, and the Christian’s love him.

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      Dude if Jesus appeared tomorrow the Republicans would line up to burn him. They don’t have real beliefs, just symbols.

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        While I think they would nail him to a cross, without noticing the irony, rather than burn him, you’re not wrong. Jesus is too woke for them.

        Moore told NPR in an interview released Tuesday that multiple pastors had told him they would quote the Sermon on the Mount, specifically the part that says to “turn the other cheek,” when preaching. Someone would come up after the service and ask, “Where did you get those liberal talking points?”

        “What was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, ‘I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ,’ the response would not be, ‘I apologize.’ The response would be, ‘Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak,’” Moore said. “When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.”

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          I was thinking of this exact thing when commenting! And now we learn that Trump was put here by God for reasons.

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      That’s makes sense actually, anitchrist means the End Times^TM are here. Christians see that as a good thing

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        But isn’t getting deceived by him supposed to get you an express ticket to hell?

        You’d think they’d be a little more cautious

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          Given the figure that most closely matches the projected boogeyman in something like 2 Thess 2 was Paul himself, they’ve been deceived for nearly two millennia now.

          At this point, gravitating to a narcissist grifter is just par for the course.

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      His name is 669 when put into Aramaic and that old Middle East way of counting is applied to the letters?

      Teasing. I take your meaning.

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    So the best God could give you all is a narcissistic, socipathic manchild with a spray tan…? That’s a big yikes. These people are delusional.

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    My goodness are these people really this deluded?

    Isn’t donny dump like the exact personification of all the christian sins?

    Greed(obviously)

    sloth/gluttony (fatass loves Mc D’s also obvious)

    pride(uh, he’s the best at everything according to him?)

    Envy probably

    Lust obviously

    Wrath. I dunno, anger?

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      Ehhh, the issue is that’s not really well-enforced, and the churches know that. They know that as long as they aren’t OUTRIGHT telling people “go down to the polls and vote for Trump”, but instead couching it in semi-religious language, they’re pretty safe from anyone poking at them for this - the IRS is extremely gun-shy about trying to nab anyone on this anymore.

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    How are some people so ignorant to all the terrible things he’s done? No one ever fact checks on anything and it’s seriously depressing

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      Remember this is not a failure of conclusions (Trump is sent by god), but a failure of proceedings (belief and faith is superior to facts and reality).

      They lack the critical thinking skills to even begin to digest and elaborate an argument that relies of evidence and principled thinking. They don’t evaluate reality on principles, they evaluate reality on emotion, identity and authority above all else. Therefore, fact checking is not even a possibility.

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      He was already known as a sleazy conman and the butt of jokes for decades before he won in 2016. How could they not know?

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      I’ve heard many say they don’t like what he has done but somehow he is still the best thing ever in spite of that.

      Maybe it ties into the Christian redemption thing.

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        From what I gather, many evangelicals who support Trump see him as a fighter against a corrupt worldly government and a champion of their causes.

        Then there’s the MAGA concept, which plays into their Great Replacement paranoia (the fear that the white Protestant American majority is being replaced by non-whites and non-believers).

        The fact that he is about as far from Christ-like as it’s possible to be doesn’t seem to deter them all that much.

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        That’s a big part of it, same reason they let rapist pastors stay in positions of authority. The entire belief system is ripe for abusing

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    What happened to Romans 13:1

    Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

    They sure seemed eager to use that when Trump got into power.

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      Same thing that happened to Mark 12:17

      Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” And they were amazed at him.

      And yet they do anything they can to avoid paying taxes.

      And let’s not forget Mark 10:25

      It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God.”

      Yet they glorify a man who brags about how rich he is.

      How is it that I, an atheist Jew, know Jesus better than they do?

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        Because you aren’t following “the Spirit” (aka listen to your religious leaders dogmatically and tell yourself you are correct because you misinterpret your confirmation bias as spiritual guidance).

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        Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” And they were amazed at him.

        That’s because it was a sidestep answer. In that religion, all things belong to God. Caesar minted the money using their own gold. So, all roman money belonged to caesar and you had to pay your taxes using roman money. The question is then “what exactly is Caesar’s and whats gods?” The rabbis couldn’t follow up with that question without getting crucified themselves.

        That “interpretation” of that story came about after king Charles wanted to raise taxes to raise an army to put down an Irish rebellion. Rightly, parliament didn’t trust him to do that and not use the army on them straight after. So, they refused and said the king has no right to force them to do so.

        Then, all of a sudden, as if by magic, king Charles was like “you’ll never guess what I just found in the bible. Yup, it says so right here. God says you all have to give me money. I know, I know, I couldn’t believe my luck when I found it too. Good job I’m a king and wouldn’t lie about such things.”

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      The more reasonable christians out there who still believe that aren’t dramatic enough for the headlines.

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      Yeps remember when Jeff Sessions said that to justify kids in cages. The night he said that was my last connection to organized religion.

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        Why can’t I escape Dune? Maybe the worse novel I ever read except I managed to get into about halfway into the sequel which is somehow even lower.

        The only things I like about the Dune franchise

        • The original movie. Most excellent. Almost no religious bullshit and plenty of worms

        • Teasing a friend of mine in IT about how in the Dune universe IT has to “service” the Mentants and clean the tanks of the navigators.

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            I still can’t get over the fact that the book has extra chapters of explanation of the plot in the back. You have to do fucking homework to read the novel!

            Couldn’t just gradually fill in details as it went along like every sci-fi novel out there?

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                  Here, here! I fucking hate Tolkeins writing. Hell even Asimov gets into way too much tellling, not showing. I most certainly am not reading some fucking appendix because the author is too much of a hack to write some exposition between a few characters explaining the rules of the story. It’s like fucking Niel Stevenson giving a very bland and basic-ass lesson in vocabulary at the start of Anathem. Go climb up into your asshole farther, Niel. If I’m reading sci-fi in English I know how to look up a word, and most certainly don’t need you to fucking explain it to me.

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        …I found them all drunk, and I did not find any of them thirsty. My soul ached for the children of humanity, because they are blind in their hearts and do not see, for they came into the world empty, and they also seek to depart from the world empty.

        But meanwhile they are drunk. When they shake off their wine, then they will change their ways.

        • An apocryphal statement nearly 2,000 years old that seems to have underestimated people’s taste for the opiate of the masses