• Letstakealook@lemm.ee
    1221·
    9 months ago

    A third of those predate gen z. The complete nonsense words are definitely on them, though.

    • Vespair@lemm.ee
      504·
      9 months ago

      No, it just shouldn’t be capitalized. It’s short for “operative” and usually refers to somebody you think is (or jokingly think is) working for/with the cops or feds.

      It’s “Opp,” not OPP

        • Vespair@lemm.ee
          11·
          9 months ago

          Narc is more specific, opp is more general, so the youngin’s have opted for opp.

          Every narc is an opp, not every opp is a narc.

          But yeah, I think narc is closer than “enemy”, probably

        • Vespair@lemm.ee
          2·
          9 months ago

          This makes vastly more sense in both gamer and hip-hop context than “opponent” does, so I’m willing to concede that this might actually be the right reading, as retroactively this fits in place of “operative” in the hip-hop settings I’ve experienced it in whereas opponent doesn’t.

          Kudos.

      • PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee
        112·
        9 months ago

        It’s “opp” with two p’s but it’s short for “operative”, a word with one p? I’m starting to think that you don’t really know either.

        • Vespair@lemm.ee
          161·
          9 months ago

          Yeah and “rizz” comes from charisma but isn’t spelled “ris.”

          And “OP” has multiple existing potential meanings still in common use today, so it makes sense to me to spell it with flair for the sake of clarity.

          Slang is complex and morphs as it travels though; so do some folks use opp as “opponent”? Sure, that’s believable. But I feel fairly confident (never fully confident; I am fallible after all) that it’s original use comes from AAVE and more specifically hip-hop, where I again feel pretty damn confident it refers to an operative and not an opponent.

          If I am wrong though, I would love to be corrected (with some verification of some kind) so I can be sure to reconcile the new info and not spread misinformation again. I’ll happily await your evidence to that end.

          • Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world
            45·
            9 months ago

            so do some folks use opp as “opponent”? Sure, that’s believable. But I feel fairly confident…

            Bro, it doesn’t even have the right number of P’s for your reasoning to make any sense.

            It comes from “opponent,” that’s why there are two P’s. It comes from video games/chess/card games/etc where you refer to the person or persons you’re playing against as the “opponent”. It’s been happening for many years but has made it’s way into gen z slang.

            • Vespair@lemm.ee
              31·
              9 months ago

              Perhaps there’s a case of parallel development here, but I really don’t think that’s what happened.

              Gamer slang has long borrowed, sometimes sincerely sometimes ironically, from AAVE and hip-hop slang, where I truly believe this originates, and clearly has the cop/fed connotation. Yeah, I know people shorthand “opp” as opponent in games in the same way they shorthand everything, but jesus christ that’s more approaching 1337 5p35k customs than gen z/alpha slang, so even if we do assume parallel development and concede opp=opponent in modern gamer slang it almost certainly is pretty unrelated to said archaic use and was likely homespun in zoomer/alpha games like Roblox or Amung Us or whatever they’re playing now instead.

              But hey, while I remain unconvinced I am proud to accept my fallibility and ask everyone to remember that I am just some stranger online when weighing the weight of my opinion and to draw your own conclusion on the matter. I do not claim to speak gospel.

    • don@lemm.ee
      81·
      9 months ago

      The last p, well… that’s not that simple. It’s sorta like another way to call a cat kitten. As for the ladies, OPP means something gifted: the first two letters are the same but the last is something different; it’s another five letter word rhymin’ with cleanest and meanest.

      • Emerald@lemmy.world
        5·
        9 months ago

        My high school Algebra teacher was once telling the class about ZPP, the zero product property. He told us when he was teaching in the 90s, there was a new song out called OPP and he would say “you down with ZPP?” and the class would say “yeah you know me!” lol

    • 4am@lemm.ee
      21·
      9 months ago

      Is it just “OP”? Like how online forums starting Reddit say “original poster” and this just snuck its way into all conversation?

  • Toneswirly@lemmy.world
    75·
    9 months ago

    As a younger millenial I gotta say some of these are ours. We were calling things “extra” since like '06. Vibe is as old as the hippies, and mid is weed slang from like the early 2000s.

  • don@lemm.ee
    712·
    9 months ago

    That’s a dope-ass list, shit’s ill af. Just don’t be bitin someone else’s stilo, cuz that shit’s wack, yo. If ya do, just tell ‘em “my bad, b!”, or expect peeps gonna be poppin caps in your ass, ya heard?

    Word to ya motha.

    • Icaria@lemmy.world
      151·
      9 months ago

      The whole trend is nothing new. Millennials and some GenXers were stealing all their slang from American rappers when they were young, too.

        • Icaria@lemmy.world
          1·
          8 months ago

          Rap got popular in the 80’s, like NWA and Run DMC, right as GenXers were entering their formative years. Really not hard to figure out before posting pointless replies.

          • Dr. Bob@lemmy.caEnglish
            1·
            8 months ago

            I am GenX so I can speak from my personal experience, which I realize is not universal.

            I actually bought “Rappers Delight” on a 45 rpm single the year it was released. But it’s also true that Blondie’s “Rapture” was the first rapping song I heard on the radio. I would have been 13 at the time and rap was far from a mainstream musical style.

            Looking back now there certainly were specific individuals of GenX and Jones who had access to rap, but it was certainly not available to me as a suburban kid in Canada. Even that Sugarhill Gang single was hard to find because “rap” as a concept didn’t really exist at that point. I am trying to find a recording of the Extras song “Hip Hop Hip Hip” as an example but it’s so obscure neither YouTube nor my streaming service seem to have it available. It would be unrecognizable to you as hip hop because nobody knew what hip hop was then. People were experimenting broadly and some of those experiments are now considered part of the movement. But we didn’t know that then. Another example that stands out for me was “White Lines” by Grandmaster Flash. It was largely spoken word and I would have identified it as funk then. Now I guess I don’t know.

            “Straight Outta Compton” came out when I was in university. I really liked it because of the anger. The raw emotion felt like the best of the punk movement from 15 years before.

            So yeah I could have been clearer. The early seeds of what we now consider “rap” were around when I was young. But I would not have called it a popular genre in my circles, or even mainstream. I don’t remember rap shows in the clubs (and I spent a lot of time there in my teens and twenties).

    • BluesF@lemmy.world
      7·
      9 months ago

      “Giving” is ballroom slang from like, the 80s. Extra is also LGBT slang that has been around at least since I was a teenager > a decade ago.

      • 4am@lemm.ee
        2·
        9 months ago

        Yeah but giving is seeing a surge, particularly as attitudes about LGBTQA shift

  • John_McMurray@lemmy.world
    331·
    9 months ago

    I seem to recall when they were translating “grunge” slang and it was also mostly bullshit not actually used.

  • boonhet@lemm.ee
    29·
    9 months ago

    I’m a very late millennial, borderline Gen Z, and even I feel like all my slang knowledge is outdated.