• vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 months ago

    Haha genocide Biden meme haha, but tbf the latest statements I’ve seen from the administration are the most critical of Israel have seen the US be since 1948.

    Still, too little, and way too late, and still too much business as usual going on, but there’s a shift happening.

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      9 months ago

      Critical statements have no meaning when they are still actively supporting the genocide with weapons. The US has the power to change the situation but they refuse to. Why? Because the white house is full of racists fucks who don’t care about Palestinians.

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        9 months ago

        Ngl, I think it’s more real politik.

        I am convinced even if we had a Palestinian American president, with grandparents actively being victims in the genocide, they’d still be pro-Israel.

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        I agree with you! But the thing is, this is the first time in history that, in US politics, signaling anything other than complete support for anything Israel does is considered a virtue. It’s a massive shift.

        Completely useless if you are on the ground, starving to death and getting bombed, but a shift nonetheless.

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      Anything other than completely upheaving US foreign policy and throwing all of our long standing military alliances in question during a time of unmatched geopolitical tension will satisfy the “genocide joe” crowd.

      I don’t even necessarily disagree, it’s just thinking through the ramifications of that

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        9 months ago

        And I guess the criteria for bot is “got downvotes” or “comments of disagreement” yeah?

        Try truth social instead. Way fewer bots to bother you.

        • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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          9 months ago

          Comes with a very narrow way of thinking, when you literally can’t understand why someone disagrees with you, and have no ability to empathize with their points.

          I understand conservative viewpoints, and I empathize why they feel the way they do. (Usually fear of the unknown and change). That doesn’t mean I agree with them at all, but I understand why they think that way. A lot of people cannot do that, and refuse to learn why the other side thinks that way.

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              Probably because the mechanism of American elections makes it a binary choice, and the options are between “more than 30k dead” and “WAY more than 30k dead”. Half-assed, milquetoast hesitation toward genocide is preferable to enthusiastic support for genocide (not to mention enthusiastic support for other genocides), which is the alternative on the ballot. Do you defend the alternative?

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              I don’t know, you tell me. Empathize with their side and tell me what do you think they think. Not propaganda, not talking points, what do you think the other side thinks. Honestly. They obviously have a reason they think that way, what do you think their reasons are?