Fuck! I’ve always liked Hyundai, and that model has been high on the list for that ‘maybe someday’ when I can afford and have the means to actually charge an EV (hard to do when you’re stuck in an open apartment parking lot.
If they’re pulling shit like this, that’ll be a hard no.
…tad off topic, but what are some of the EVs on the less enshittified end of the spectrum?
I don’t know, but it seems like all manufacturers are using EVs as an opportunity to experiment with user hostile software. Not sure if there’s an ‘analog’ electric car you can get.
Yeah it sucks, I hate everything have a sim car and internet. I hate the disclaimer agreement that starts when I drive.
My EV knows there is an update but wants me to deliver vua usb and will not stop telling me about it. They also notify you mid drive that the T&Cs are updated, but you cnt agree while driving and csnt manually find the prompt again.
Haven’t seen them up close, but from what I gather they’re trying to out-Tesla Tesla by building AI into everything (and doing it better, but I’m not a fan of this crap, whether it’s from an American company, a European company, a Korean company or a Chinese company).
Well I know LLMs are currently hated, but a quick Google seems to indicate most of their AI integration has to do with driver systems and such, which I don’t believe has the same ethical issues for most people? (If you just dislike using it, I’m sure they’re optional / can be disabled). Reason I ask is because I’m currently checking out what car to buy.
Chevy Bolt is may be less sexy, but super reliable. Mine has close to 50k on it, and zero issues after the battery swap 5 or 6 years ago. Still get ~300 miles in good weather.
Yup, 2020 bolt owner here. Bought it used after the recalls for cheapish. It’s ugly, but nice to drive and pretty dang practical. Plus it has actual buttons and knobs for AC and volume!
Just wish it charged faster for the occasional road trip.
Ioniq 5 has also apparently been having issues with their ICCU (integrated charging control unit) that leaves the car immobilized until it’s replaced.
Replacement parts for the ICCU are sometimes months out.
Fuck! I’ve always liked Hyundai, and that model has been high on the list for that ‘maybe someday’ when I can afford and have the means to actually charge an EV (hard to do when you’re stuck in an open apartment parking lot.
If they’re pulling shit like this, that’ll be a hard no.
…tad off topic, but what are some of the EVs on the less enshittified end of the spectrum?
I don’t know, but it seems like all manufacturers are using EVs as an opportunity to experiment with user hostile software. Not sure if there’s an ‘analog’ electric car you can get.
Yeah it sucks, I hate everything have a sim car and internet. I hate the disclaimer agreement that starts when I drive.
My EV knows there is an update but wants me to deliver vua usb and will not stop telling me about it. They also notify you mid drive that the T&Cs are updated, but you cnt agree while driving and csnt manually find the prompt again.
What about the Chinese brands? BYD and such.
Haven’t seen them up close, but from what I gather they’re trying to out-Tesla Tesla by building AI into everything (and doing it better, but I’m not a fan of this crap, whether it’s from an American company, a European company, a Korean company or a Chinese company).
Well I know LLMs are currently hated, but a quick Google seems to indicate most of their AI integration has to do with driver systems and such, which I don’t believe has the same ethical issues for most people? (If you just dislike using it, I’m sure they’re optional / can be disabled). Reason I ask is because I’m currently checking out what car to buy.
Chevy Bolt is may be less sexy, but super reliable. Mine has close to 50k on it, and zero issues after the battery swap 5 or 6 years ago. Still get ~300 miles in good weather.
+1 for the Chevy Bolt. I’ve got the 2023 EUV, absolutely love it.
However, I’ve heard that the newer lines are dropping Apple CarPlay & Android Auto support. Which would be a hard no from me.
The used market for EVs is kinda crazy cheap right now though. To OP: I’d highly suggest looking for a used 2023 Chevy Bolt when you’re ready.
I never once thought I would ever hear Chevy and reliable in the same sentence. Having unfortunately owned a few Chevy ICE’s myself.
Yup, 2020 bolt owner here. Bought it used after the recalls for cheapish. It’s ugly, but nice to drive and pretty dang practical. Plus it has actual buttons and knobs for AC and volume! Just wish it charged faster for the occasional road trip.
Ioniq 5 has also apparently been having issues with their ICCU (integrated charging control unit) that leaves the car immobilized until it’s replaced. Replacement parts for the ICCU are sometimes months out.
my neighbor got a honda prologue in october and likes it. apparently it’s a chevy platform but it’s honda tweaks. good sound system and acceleration.