• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    Well, if they don’t pay attention to me saying “let me know if you need any help,” then, again, they’re not a very good friend. I can’t help it if they don’t care enough about what I’ve told them to just ask me for help. If they asked me for money, again, I wouldn’t think “they need help.” I get that you would, but I wouldn’t.

    And sure, rich people can suffer from mental and emotional problems. They also can afford a therapist.

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      8 months ago

      I’m not sure what to say, it’s been pointed out that this is kind of like a cry for help, and you still insist on holding it against them. I guess we’re still squarely in the time if people seeing mental health issues as personality flaws.

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          I wouldn’t have known that without reading this article, would I? Which was my point.

          I originally responded to you claiming it was “just shitty behavior.” Are you telling me you had read the article at that point?

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            That is simply false. You originally responded to this comment:

            I’m glad that’s never happened to me. They wouldn’t be my friend anymore.

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              Holy nit-pick, batman. I was one post off, but the timing remained the same and the question still exactly the same.

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                  I literally asked you a question because your post made no sense in the context of having read the article first. And that is the equivalent to knowing what you are talking about. Lol

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                    You asked a question that you answered yourself in the next sentence without my response. This is what you said:

                    The article talks about how this is not them being assholes, but because if they have more money then their peers, it tends to make them feel isolated and self-conscious and fears about being taken advantage of. They even quote the expert at the end who says “They don’t care about the $4.”

                    You would ditch a friend for struggling with someone? I find that hard to believe.

                    https://lemmy.world/comment/9372718

                    Now you’re upset about a response to your rhetorical question you didn’t like?

                    Incidentally, I never said anything about anyone being an asshole when you said that, this is what I said:

                    I’m glad that’s never happened to me. They wouldn’t be my friend anymore.

                    You can try being dishonest about a conversation everyone can see, but it won’t work very well.

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        So I go out with a rich friend and they want to stop and get a drink in a bar they like the look of, they buy us each a pint and it costs $14. Later I have to send them seven dollars which means I have to cut down on my food shopping and worry about spending, maybe I have to cancel going out with another friend.

        They don’t care about this and nor do you, the only thing that matters is the rich person might feel anxious about their social status? That’s total bullshit, don’t you think I’d feel shitty sitting there not drinking with them or ruining their evening by declining the suggestion to stop for a drink like I would alone? When do my social fears matter in this equation? Oh of course, never because it was written by some affluent fuckwit trying to justify the fact all their old friends find them insufferable.

        ‘They don’t care about the 4 dollars’ quote actually translates to ‘they don’t care about you as a person or any difficulties you might go through in a practical sense because a lingering self-doubt that everyone has regardless of the situation trumps all’

        Everyone worries that their friends don’t really like them, it’s part of being human. Pushing that onto your friend as a practical problem when they already have the many emotional, psychological, and practical worries associated with the situation is a selfish dick move.

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          You’ve learned that it’s a cry for help. What you choose to do with it is up to you.

          But I was responding to someone claiming this was just shitty behavior, and suggesting it makes them a bad person. I was addressing this. It’s quite presumptuous to turn that into me not caring about what happened in some hypothetical situation that you just posed to me right now.

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            But the point we’re making is it’s not a cry for help it’s pushing their emotional problems on someone else in a physical form while refusing to take on board other people’s emotional problems caused by their poorer economic position.

            ‘Beating my wife is actualy a cry for help, pity me!’ No you’re an awful person objectively in the wrong.

            Just writing an article about how hard done by you are doesn’t change the reality you’re in the better position in every regard and pushing your issues onto your friends is not the action of an actual friend. Suck it up or use money on therapy.