wtf, Texas
Is even this politicized?
It may never be known exactly how many Texas women have died as a result of the state’s abortion restrictions … And the state is not trying to find out. The Texas Maternal Mortality and Morbidity Review Committee, the body responsible for investigating maternal deaths, has announced it is not investigating cases from 2022 and 2023, including the immediate aftermath of the state’s almost-total abortion ban.
Disgusting. And these scumbags are fine with it too.
Porsha Ngumezi and Brenda Yolani Arzu Ramirez were their names.
They deserved to have their kids, and get a chance to live life as moms. Instead now they are gone, and now they are being used as puppets. What a horrible timeline.
Is even this politicized?
It always was… this was never about children or life. It has ever and always been about control. The death of these women is, at best, incidental, and at worst, intentional.
American conservatives are batsit insane. Even conservatives in other developed countries won’t even subvert the law on allowing abortion on the grounds of health and safety of both the child and mother.
Texas is NOT a red state. It’s gerrymandered to hell.
And about to get even worse.
Shouldn’t that mean their semators would be blue?
Christian values at its finest here.
The statistics show worse outcomes for black women in abortion restricted states. There are so many deaths from the hands of Republicans. It is insane that they are supported by so many people in this country.
Just a different type of genocide.
What a shithole
I wonder how many Savita Halappanavar’s (she died from complications post miscarriage in Ireland in 2012) there need to be in the world before people pull their heads out of their asses and let women have true bodily autonomy and give them the care that goes along with that?
Like, whether you take the Hippocratic Oath, the WHO’s Oath, Lasagna’s Oath (yes, it’s a thing - one of the revisions of the Hippocratic Oath in the 20th century done by a man who’s last name was Lasagna), or any of the other versions that are out there, the one unifying factor is that as a medical professional you swear to not harm your patients. This is harming patients. They are breaking their oaths and should have their licenses revoked for intentional malpractice.
For physicians in these total ban states, defying the law would mean the loss of everything they have. Under your edict here, OB/Gyns would lose their license no matter what. They’d lose their license under your plan if they refused to provide abortion care and they’d lose their license and face prison time if they did provide abortion care.
Yes, it means that the women who need abortion care are going to suffer immensely, but there’s already a dire shortage of OB/Gyn physicians, so losing more of them to prison is not going to help all the women that need regular obstetric or gynecologic care and the women who need abortion care.
This is the definition of “between a rock and a hard place” and there’s maternal mortality on both sides because when women can’t get prenatal care, it drastically increases the chances of them dying from pregnancy or delivery complications.
And of course they were both POC. I fucking hate this state, and I don’t even live in it.
Piece of crap? What the hell have they done to you?
I was made to either move to Texas or lose my career.
I chose to lose my career.
The Deregulated Bible Banging Texas Oblast and their shitty healthcare system.
Is even this politicized?
The answer is yes. They are treating ours and our children’s lives as nothing more than pawns.
And of course, when the Republicans do heinous shit, they also make sure to shut down or suppress the institutions that are responsible for keeping track of and reporting this information. All so they can have a few more of those green papers and have enough plausible deniability to not disgust their base into turning against them.
Fuck these people. And fuck the doctors too that follow these bullshit laws they know are morally wrong. Just fucking sitting on their hands and letting people fucking die for no good reason. I hope they never get good sleep for the rest of their lives, knowing they could and should have done more.
So you’re saying all of the OB/Gyns in abortion ban states should give up their license and likely go to prison thereby leaving all pregnant patients without care?
Because that’s what you’re proposing here, functionally. OB/Gyns are already leaving these states in droves because of these bans and it’s leaving massive maternal care deserts across the South. There are already millions of people living in areas without OB/Gyn care within 100 miles drive, and now critical access rural hospitals are closing. Also, OB/delivery services are the first thing on the chopping block for budget cuts at struggling hospitals because 41% of births in America are covered by Medicaid. This number is substantially higher in the areas that are also affected by healthcare deserts meaning that up to 90-100% of births might be covered by Medicaid in some of these rural hospitals. With the Medicaid cuts, that means that the hospital loses thousands of dollars for every baby born there when they’re already deep in the red.
Your “all or nothing” approach to what physicians should be doing leaves absolutely no consideration for the secondary effects of such actions. If providing one abortion meant the complete loss of an OB/Gyn physician to a community, the tradeoff simply is not worth it. There are so many things that can go wrong with pregnancy and delivery that are not fixable with abortion (and what if it’s a wanted pregnancy?). Depriving communities of qualified physicians is a death sentence for many women that will then be unable to access the prenatal care that could have saved their life.
So you’re saying all of the OB/Gyns in abortion ban states should give up their license and likely go to prison thereby leaving all pregnant patients without care?
Nope, I didn’t say that.
I’m saying these people should operate by the oath they made to do no harm. I’m saying I wish someone would take a stand and help someone that needs it, so they don’t just sit there and die for no good reason.
If they lose their license and go to jail for helping someone, then the laws are truly unjust and should not be followed. Maybe it would bring more attention to this shit instead of just letting people die, having our institutions not report it, and only a small handful of people ever seeing this article. Maybe there would be a lot more articles about the doctor that got arrested for saving someone’s life. And if people can’t get the care from that physician that was arrested for saving someone’s life, that is the state’s problem. It’s not the Doctors fault for sticking to the words they swore everyone they would live by. Maybe something would happen instead of everyone just sitting idly by and letting shit keep getting worse. Maybe one Doctor inspires more Doctors to do the same. They can’t arrest all the Doctors.
If I was a doctor in one of these states, I would absolutely risk my career for this. Wouldn’t you? It is cowardice not to. If they want to arrest all the Doctors and cause the rest to flee the state, leaving their citizens vulnerable, that is the state’s fault for pushing this archaic bullshit down our throats. They should have thought of the consequences before passing laws telling doctors to stop giving people healthcare! In my opinion, doctors being scared to lose their licenses and just letting people die instead shouldn’t be doctors anymore.
The original Hippocratic oath forbids abortions. So do many of the modern versions. There are plenty of physicians that keep true to that oath.
And if people can’t get the care from that physician that was arrested for saving someone’s life, that is the state’s problem
Yes, and when informed of the fact that it is responsible for the lives of its’ citizens, the state said “lol no” and went right back to dismantling every single system constructed to support human life in this country.
We have already seen GOP state congresses overturn the will of the voters. No amount of outcry or protest will reverse the course of arresting and persecuting physicians and women involved with abortion care will ever overcome the gerrymandering. You’re advocating for physicians throwing away everything they’ve worked for their whole lives for a single patient in a way that will also leave all of their other patients without care.
I know you are passionate and vehement about this, but unless you’re in the position to trade your entire life for this one ethical principle without regard for all of the knock-on effects, your opinion means extremely little to those who are in that position.
The victims are the disenfranchised minorities. The doctors (sometimes) are intimidated into compliance because they don’t want to be held liable.
Texas has some of the most lax gun laws… just saying
They don’t want to lose their medical licences more like, because then they help noone
Republicans are monsters. Fucking evil pieces of shit. That’s the type that has swept the party since 2015. The moderates are gone. Only the most heinous pieces of shit fill their ranks in government today.
Matthew 7:7-8
7 - Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 - For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
In other words: Fuck around and find out.
Yup.
Direct link without Apple redirect
Thanks. Is there a common way to de-apple such a link or did you have to search for the original article?
It’s automatic in this case.
There are browser addons to skip redirects, but I don’t know how well they work.For sharing from Apple News, instead of using the share button (if that’s what you did) I guess you could open the link in a browser first, let it redirect and then copy the original URL.
This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
Nothing brings people to your side like sending out a random scold.
Good shit, good shit. Very tactical.
(I voted Harris)
Thank you.
That is how winner-take-all FPTP voting works, yes. You’re not actually voting for the person you mark on the ballot, but rather against everyone else. So by not voting at all, you are supporting everyone on the ballot equally, which, given that one of the candidates is a fascist rapist fraudster, isn’t quite the burn that this shitpost meme thinks it is.
So you are saying that by not voting, you voted for everyone. That’s a new to me take. Sounds like you are also saying that there is no way to not vote for at least someone. And if so, then there should be no blame for someone who refuses to participate in a corrupt system.
What if all the cadadites were fascists. Plenty people here would say anyone supporting a fascist is a fascist, so if you can’t not vote for anyone, then you are a fascist for existing.So you are saying that by not voting, you voted for everyone.
Literally not what they said. They said “supporting,” which is different. One doesn’t need to vote in order to support. But by giving equal support to all candidates, you bear some tiny responsibility for whoever wins regardless of whether the winning candidate is “good” or “bad.”
Basically your abdicating control of your responsibility to everyone else, but that doesn’t make you any less responsible for it.
Fair point on the word mistake.
But the rest of my point stands. No matter who you vote for you are supporting something evil. And you are saying that not voting is supporting something evil. So a person is just evil for existing. That makes all citizen who are allowed to vote evil. And if that is what you saying, then who cares. Everyone is evil no matter what they do.
It’s --almost like-- we live in a world that not black & white and people have to make the best choices they can under the circumstances
Exactly. And if in thier opinion, not voting, or 3rd party voting is the best choice, we shouldn’t claim they supported someone who clearly goes against thier beliefs simply because the system was setup to give them no good choices.
This is beyond stupid. The Drumpf era has taught me to loathe “both siders” and fence sitters. This current evil is definitely on THEM !!! There are degrees of evil. Support the least evil in elections, and agitate for better candidates between elections. Just ignoring it all and not voting, makes you complicit with any bad outcome, no matter what mental gymnastics you can perform.
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Then trump has won you. He needs people like you to keep his enemies fractured and disorganized. Great job helping him out.
If you dont vote against the only candidate that can beat the fascist you are a fascist enabler.
What if they are all fascists. Are you then a fascist for mearly existing?
Begin mental gymnastics.
Not sure which side you are on, but the responses so far have been full of mental gymnastics for sure.
Now being obtuse. Yup. Keep doing your gymnastics.
Thats not how words work
Sounds like people trying to get out of protest-non-voting in Trump.
I know the english language is hard and actually pretty crappy. Saying a person who refused to support evil in all forms voted for evil by not voting is a logical fallacy.
It’s also basically victum shaming.Says the guy that is also being obtuse (see other reply).
Funny you’re worried about victims when you, presumably, protest-no-voted for this.
