Former F1 world champion Mario Andretti held a press conference outside the U.S. Capitol with Michigan Rep. John James to make their case for admitting Andretti Cadillac on the grid.
I’ve told you that you’re wrong. FOM is under UK jurisdiction, it’s a UK company. And the Concorde Agreement is answerable to UK law, not US law.
If Andretti wants in, they’ll have to challenge it in UK courts, not American ones.
I don’t think I can dumb this down any more for you, I’m sorry.
And no, since you’ve been dodging the question, clearly you aren’t. Answer it. Do you think the UK has the right to tell the NFL that they must accept British teams? Yes or no.
Liberty is a US company, and owns F1. It doesn’t matter what law their contracts construction contain because this is not a contract issue.
This is not about Andretti, it’s about GM.
That question is in reality useless, since the NFL would love to have a British team. If they did have a team complying with their rules, and the NFL was found to be breaking British antitrust laws; I’ve got no problem with them being sued.
That’s not how this works. McDonald’s owns McDonald’s UK, but that doesn’t mean that McDonald’s UK follows US laws. It follows UK laws. The same applies to FOM, which is a British business, based in the UK, and complies with UK law. US laws don’t apply to them, nor is there any mechanisms to apply them.
How is that hard to understand? How many more times do I need to explain it to you? If you set up a lemonade stand in the US then another in Spain, they’ll follow the laws of where they’re based respectively. They wouldn’t bother be under the guise of US law.
this is not a contract issue.
Yes it is.
This is not about Andretti
Yes it is.
That question is in reality useless, since the NFL would love to have a British team.
Stop dodging the question.
and the NFL was found to be breaking British antitrust laws; I’ve got no problem with them being sued.
Interesting… So you think any country should be able to sue any company or sporting organisation for their business elsewhere. Cool. I’ll be awaiting, say, Germany suing USPS and you cheering for it.
There are US laws for business. Most countries have them. Antitrust laws are not contingent on internal contracts. It’s a law not a contract dispute. If you can acknowledge that it might be worthwhile to go further.
US laws apply to anybody or anything on US Ground. That includes people, business, and things like money and banking.
If you want to practice monopolistic business practices in other parts of the world and exclude the US and U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement countries, that is up to you and the antitrust laws of the EU and Britain.
If this is your way of saying you understand this is not a contract matter, say so.
You are dead wrong about F1 being a foreign entity but suppose it is. Suppose it is incorporated in Britain instead of Delaware. Then it still can be indicted as was FIFA, a Swiss company, as this article explains.
It is a foreign entity, are you stupid? The UK is not in the US. I can show you a map if you like. How could you possibly argue that a business based in the UK isn’t a foreign entity to the US.
Currie explained that CONCACAF’s headquarters has been in the United States—in New York and then Florida—for the entire time period included in the indictment.
Doesn’t apply to FOM.
Also, this covers financial crimes in which American financial companies and a headquarters based in the US was involved.
Very different to FOM, a British company, the FIA, a French company, and teams (various countries) setting standards on who can join their private club.
Should the NFL be under the jurisdiction of the UK?
I’ve told you that you’re wrong. FOM is under UK jurisdiction, it’s a UK company. And the Concorde Agreement is answerable to UK law, not US law.
If Andretti wants in, they’ll have to challenge it in UK courts, not American ones.
I don’t think I can dumb this down any more for you, I’m sorry.
And no, since you’ve been dodging the question, clearly you aren’t. Answer it. Do you think the UK has the right to tell the NFL that they must accept British teams? Yes or no.
This is the last time I’ll say this.
Liberty is a US company, and owns F1. It doesn’t matter what law their contracts construction contain because this is not a contract issue.
This is not about Andretti, it’s about GM.
That question is in reality useless, since the NFL would love to have a British team. If they did have a team complying with their rules, and the NFL was found to be breaking British antitrust laws; I’ve got no problem with them being sued.
That’s not how this works. McDonald’s owns McDonald’s UK, but that doesn’t mean that McDonald’s UK follows US laws. It follows UK laws. The same applies to FOM, which is a British business, based in the UK, and complies with UK law. US laws don’t apply to them, nor is there any mechanisms to apply them.
How is that hard to understand? How many more times do I need to explain it to you? If you set up a lemonade stand in the US then another in Spain, they’ll follow the laws of where they’re based respectively. They wouldn’t bother be under the guise of US law.
Yes it is.
Yes it is.
Stop dodging the question.
Interesting… So you think any country should be able to sue any company or sporting organisation for their business elsewhere. Cool. I’ll be awaiting, say, Germany suing USPS and you cheering for it.
There are US laws for business. Most countries have them. Antitrust laws are not contingent on internal contracts. It’s a law not a contract dispute. If you can acknowledge that it might be worthwhile to go further.
US laws don’t apply outside of the US.
I get that you’re really into your nationalism and American exceptionalism over there, but surely you understand that.
US law is as relevant here as Japanese law.
Sigh.
US laws apply to anybody or anything on US Ground. That includes people, business, and things like money and banking.
If you want to practice monopolistic business practices in other parts of the world and exclude the US and U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement countries, that is up to you and the antitrust laws of the EU and Britain.
If this is your way of saying you understand this is not a contract matter, say so.
Exactly, and FOM isn’t in the US, it’s in the UK. I can show you a map if you like.
This really isn’t complicated.
So, it’s not a contract issue
You are dead wrong about F1 being a foreign entity but suppose it is. Suppose it is incorporated in Britain instead of Delaware. Then it still can be indicted as was FIFA, a Swiss company, as this article explains.
https://www.cnbc.com/2015/05/27/why-fifa-is-being-prosecuted-in-the-us.html#:~:text=FIFA may be based in,some of its top officials.
BTW, the Feds won this case.
It is a foreign entity, are you stupid? The UK is not in the US. I can show you a map if you like. How could you possibly argue that a business based in the UK isn’t a foreign entity to the US.
Doesn’t apply to FOM.
Also, this covers financial crimes in which American financial companies and a headquarters based in the US was involved.
Very different to FOM, a British company, the FIA, a French company, and teams (various countries) setting standards on who can join their private club.
Should the NFL be under the jurisdiction of the UK?