• Ranni’s quest line is one of the least obtuse quests in the game. While Mlicent’s is the most esoteric; especially the final part because why the hell would you expect that and not to summon her to help fight Melenia?

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      Millicent’s actual quest is almost un-failable, it’s just a touch weird that you can’t summon her for the two most obvious fights that you would think you could summon her for. I imagine the Malenia one is basically a gameplay-based decision in that literally the entire point of Malenia’s boss fight is for her to be an optional extra-tough challenge, so having any NPC available to summon diminishes that. It’s really confusing that she can’t be summoned for Niall though, especially when Niall gets summons of his own and you even get to summon one of her sisters against O’Neil

      I think Sellen has to be my pick for the weirdest quest progression. Why can’t I ask her about her apparent duplicate if I find it early? Why do I have to go all the way to Mt Gelmir to get Jerren to show up in the Weeping Peninsula to advance the quest? Does anything ever hint at where you get her a new body or am I just meant to stumble across it and make the connection? Who the hell progresses through the game in an order that lets them actually use Sellen’s summoning sign for the red wolf of Radagon in Raya Lucaria? Why is she then not available as a summon against Rennala? The whole thing is baffling

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        With Jerren’s BS: You can actually complete Sellen’s quest in a way that the only time you would even know that Jerren is involved is when SHE tells you he is after her. You never actually need to talk to or encounter Jerren to get her all the way to the end of her quest. I almost always skip his parts because I forget about them lol

        The weirdest thing with her to me is something I just noticed this last time through the game where I paid attention to the dialogue again since it’s been a while; When you get her back to Raya Lucaria after defeating Jerren, she claims that Rennala and all her loyal knights are now dead and defeated, leaving her in charge of the castle. But then you reload the area, Rennala is back and Sellen is a Graven Mass in a corner. What the hell’s up with that?

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          It does feel awfully abrupt, doesn’t it? I generally explain it to myself as that Sellen really did succeed in taking control simply because Rennala was too broken to meaningfully fight back, but she gazed a bit long into the abyss and got graven massed. When the rest of Raya Lucaria saw what happened to her they then collectively said “welp guess we were right to ban that primeval current nonsense, lets just pretend none of this ever happened”

          It really could have done with an intermediate stage where Rennala is visibly imprisoned somewhere, Lusat and Azur actually are moved to the academy, and Sellen begins to show signs of turning into something else