Antivax types are all anti pushing vaccine on to people but if they don’t want to get vaccinated then it still won’t affect vaccinated folks. From my rough understanding, getting vaccinated keeps you alive or get less severe symptoms, but you can still pass it on.
So if antivax people don’t get it, then why not just let them die?
Edit: guys, I’m not antivax, I just don’t understand how herd immunity works.
I dunno, not vaccinating is antisocial. I think vaccines must be provided for free and distributed widely.
And if some don’t want to get vaccinated, then tough luck. We are not going to let kids die because of someone spreading nonsense conspiracies.
In fact, not vaccinating everyone is favouritism, as it creates a bigger rift between rich and poor, informed and uninformed people.
If someone A were on a hospital bed and had dutifully vaccinated, but another person B who’s screaming and refuses vaccins (and consequently is more ill), then I think A deserves the care first. Person B chose a lie and harming people, over helping others. He can get fucked.
Ideally, I’d like for it to be voluntary too, but my solidarity ends at people not doing their part, be they oligarchs or antivaxxers.
I’m for mandatory vaccination to be clear but I’m not for using ignorance or stupidity as discrimination.
What do you do when person A or B is a kid who has or hasn’t been vaccinated because of their parents? Do you still discriminate their care? If person B is on a ventilator do you take them off to put A on?
What do you do when they are afraid of government because of systemic discrimination experiences or even having a relative who was in the Tuskegee syphilis experiment? Or just a needle phobia?
I would also just clarify that this antivax discrimination does exist to an extent, not vaccinating keeps you lower or off of most transplant lists and that makes sense because you want to keep the organ healthy. But it isn’t going to change your ability to get regular care.
In that case I would vaccinate the kid and not discriminate their care. They’re the victim of antivax parents, and not to be affected by them. See more here.
If they’re afraid of the government, then I’d support independent, local, decentralised vaccination campaigns. As long as it’s transparent.
And for needle phobias, well, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ there’s not really other ways. If there’s another I’d be happy to support that, though.
You can’t or at least shouldn’t vaccinate while ill. So the ethics question from before is still there.
Vaccines are governmentally approved and distributed. You’re not getting around that by local campaigns (which already exist).
The point of the needle phobia is just to show that there are some legitimate possibilities for why someone may not be vaccinated rather than just pure ignorance/stupidity.