Oh, god themselves told you all this? Then by all means keep depriving yourself. Hopefully god can show up to me someday and explain for me too. Until then I’ll just have to continue to rely on my common sense. Shame I’ve been alive almost 40 years and that omnipotent being hasn’t gotten around to laying out the rules for me.
What exactly am I ignoring? I’d love an external force to just tell me what to do but nothing has appeared so far. Other than a bunch of church types making demands of me with nothing substantial to back their claims of what’s right and wrong.
What if God became a man and lived among us. But performed miracles in the presence of witnesses who wrote that stuff down. He’d live a perfect life without sin, yet as a man He can bear the punishment for our sin so we can be forgiven, so He could be perfectly merciful but also perfectly just.
That might make sense to you, but to an atheist that’s just an unconvincing word salad. It doesn’t actually mean anything and doesn’t prove the existence of a God or gods. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and if a god is as omnipotent and omniscient as Christians claim him to be, then he should know exactly what all of our standards of proof are and be able to meet that. If not, then it’s fundamentally indistinguishable between him existing or not because it makes absolutely no difference.
Unlike God, Napoleon Bonaparte is proven to exist and there is both physical and historical evidence and context to prove he did.
There is no such evidence for a god, only contradictory stories made 2000 years ago by some dudes in the Middle East. There is as much reason to believe in Zeus or Aphrodite as there is to believe in the Christian god, which is none.
The burden of proof of God’s existence is on those who claim he does, and to this day nobody has been able to provide any beyond the usual “Oh look at the treeeeeeeees, maaaan!” argument or quoting something from the Bible. My standard of evidence is no different than most other atheists, and God has failed to prove himself to anyone who wasn’t already indoctrinated into a church as a child before developing critical thinking skills. Almost like the whole thing was just a scam to control people and take their money all along.
Not what I asked you for. We’re back to the storybook. This shit right here is why I don’t want to work with you people. You can’t give a straight answer about why anyone should buy into your beliefs but you continue to try and push them on others and judge us for not following them.
What is the “IT” you were referring to? That shouldn’t be a difficult question for you to answer. Which specific thing in plain sight am I ignoring? You claimed earlier that you don’t follow a book, you follow god, and yet all you can reference when I ask you to explain is that book?
Oh, god themselves told you all this? Then by all means keep depriving yourself. Hopefully god can show up to me someday and explain for me too. Until then I’ll just have to continue to rely on my common sense. Shame I’ve been alive almost 40 years and that omnipotent being hasn’t gotten around to laying out the rules for me.
It’s in plain sight. You just ignore it.
What exactly am I ignoring? I’d love an external force to just tell me what to do but nothing has appeared so far. Other than a bunch of church types making demands of me with nothing substantial to back their claims of what’s right and wrong.
What would you expect?
I would expect you to be able to tell me what “is in plain sight” that I am apparently ignoring as you claimed. It’s a simple question.
What if God became a man and lived among us. But performed miracles in the presence of witnesses who wrote that stuff down. He’d live a perfect life without sin, yet as a man He can bear the punishment for our sin so we can be forgiven, so He could be perfectly merciful but also perfectly just.
That might make sense to you, but to an atheist that’s just an unconvincing word salad. It doesn’t actually mean anything and doesn’t prove the existence of a God or gods. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and if a god is as omnipotent and omniscient as Christians claim him to be, then he should know exactly what all of our standards of proof are and be able to meet that. If not, then it’s fundamentally indistinguishable between him existing or not because it makes absolutely no difference.
Why should God meet your standard.
You shouldn’t even believe in Napoleon Boneparte with that logic
Unlike God, Napoleon Bonaparte is proven to exist and there is both physical and historical evidence and context to prove he did. There is no such evidence for a god, only contradictory stories made 2000 years ago by some dudes in the Middle East. There is as much reason to believe in Zeus or Aphrodite as there is to believe in the Christian god, which is none.
The burden of proof of God’s existence is on those who claim he does, and to this day nobody has been able to provide any beyond the usual “Oh look at the treeeeeeeees, maaaan!” argument or quoting something from the Bible. My standard of evidence is no different than most other atheists, and God has failed to prove himself to anyone who wasn’t already indoctrinated into a church as a child before developing critical thinking skills. Almost like the whole thing was just a scam to control people and take their money all along.
Not what I asked you for. We’re back to the storybook. This shit right here is why I don’t want to work with you people. You can’t give a straight answer about why anyone should buy into your beliefs but you continue to try and push them on others and judge us for not following them.
I asked you what you asked for and you asked me for “in plain sight”
What is the “IT” you were referring to? That shouldn’t be a difficult question for you to answer. Which specific thing in plain sight am I ignoring? You claimed earlier that you don’t follow a book, you follow god, and yet all you can reference when I ask you to explain is that book?