• Gork@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    Why though? I like public infrastructure. I don’t want toll roads everywhere I go.

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      6 months ago

      Let the states handle it. If the states don’t handle it well and have bad infrastructure, then you are free to leave. Before a state that has better infrastructure. I’d like to see a world where states compete to get new people to move there and have incentive programs for people who wish to leave other states.

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        6 months ago

        you are free to leave

        This isn’t true in the slightest. I’d love to leave Texas right now, but I in no way can afford to do so.

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          I would support community fundraisers to help people get out of situations that are bad for them. So for example, LGBTQ people who live in LGBTQ friendly places could raise money to support others who are currently living in Texas and need to move away.

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            So the libertarian solution to eliminate taxes is essentially GoFundMe, where the burden of support for those in need falls only on those who possess both empathy and the financial means to engage in philanthropy?

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              As I mentioned elsewhere in the thread, there are places in the world where it works the way this guy wants it to. Redmond O’Hanlon talked about observing the results, someone falling off a boat and clearly going to drown, and O’Hanlon becoming incredibly alarmed to the people around him, like where is the rescue boat, isn’t someone going to do something for him, don’t they have some kind of safety in place? And they asked him, who’s going to pay for it? Why would someone set up a lifeguarding operation like that for no one in particular just out of the goodness of their heart? And they laughed at his naïveté about how the world operates, as he watched the kid struggling, going further and further away and out of sight as the boat continued without him.

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              Everybody has something of value they can contribute to society. So people need to find what that is for them and do that for somebody else. If you’re good at washing dishes, then go wash dishes. If you’re good at painting houses, then go paint houses. The libertarian mindset, at least from what I can gather, is a hand up, not a hand out.

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                But what if nobody is paying enough to wash dishes or paint houses? Your logic would dictate that they should just find someone else willing to pay them enough, but if literally nobody is paying enough then there are no options.

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                  6 months ago

                  Without 52%+ taxes people would have enough to live on and save. (15% from your pay, 15% from your salary that your employer takes automatically, 10% sales tax, 12% inflation). I didnt count all the other taxes such as property ad velorem, gas, etc.)

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                    Inflation isn’t a tax. It wouldn’t go away even if you eliminated all taxes.

                    I don’t know what your income tax rates is but 30% is pretty high, you must make good money!