• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    Thanks! the only correction I have is that I’m actually an anarchist, I feel like a broken record sometimes having to explain that.

    It might be the constant defence of the PRC, the repeating of Russian propaganda on Ukraine, and simping for an instance that literally removes posts which point out genocide by fascist polities which are painted red, which cause people to correct identify you elsewise.

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      Believe it or not, passing your online purity tests about geopolitics is not what makes someone an anarchist.

      Your use of ‘tankie’ is just ‘disagrees with me from the left’ and it’s been on full display.

      as I said earlier:

      Their specialty is in turning everyone they disagree with into a ‘tankie’ that can’t possibly have a point, and consequently all abuse is then fair game.

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        Believe it or not, passing your online purity tests about geopolitics is not what makes someone an anarchist.

        Yes, it is quite apparently that you regard playing apologist for fascist states performing genocide as completely in-line with anarchism, bizarre as it is. I guess ‘purity testing’ is ‘questioning whether simping for fascism is really compatible with anarchist thought’, especially considering that you openly support .ml’s removal of anything critical of fascist states.

        Your use of ‘tankie’ is just ‘disagrees with me from the left’ and it’s been on full display.

        Ah, so defending genocide is a leftist position now. It must be the People’s Genocide.

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          Wild how every argument with you speedruns straight to hyper-fixating on what Americas enemies are doing.

          you regard playing apologist for fascist states performing genocide as completely in-line with anarchism,

          I would never play apologist for the fascist states of America and their genocidal war on the Palestinian people, You were the one spending all your energy browbeating everyone expressing disgust with genocide Joe and bomber Harris.

          Funny hearing lectures on “what anarchism is” from a social democrat who’s more interested in purity testing leftists on lemmy than building anything outside the ballot box.

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            Dude explicitly doesn’t want to build anything outside the ballot box. In fact, he considers any alternative than capitalist liberal democracy as “fascism” and would support even violent paramilitary suppression of such. No matter what it is.

            He clearly has the Fukuyama brainworms.

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              Dude explicitly doesn’t want to build anything outside the ballot box.

              I’ve explicitly said otherwise, and in conversations with you, no less. But don’t let that stop your attempt to pretend that supporting genocide is somehow justified because “A DemSoc I called a lib was mean to me :'(”

              In fact, he considers any alternative than capitalist liberal democracy as “fascism” and would support even violent paramilitary suppression of such.

              lmao

              Because I regard elections as preferable to a coup explicitly along Bolshevik lines? Bolshevik lines being, in the case that we discussed, quite literally the dissolution of a leftist democratic government the year before?

              Nothing like supporting the Vanguard Party suppressing democratic elections to really be a good anarchist, huh?

              Astounding that you prefer the taste of boot leather to the horrible position of opposing genocide.

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                I’ve explicitly said otherwise, and in conversations with you, no less. But don’t let that stop your attempt to pretend that supporting genocide is somehow justified because “A DemSoc I called a lib was mean to me :'(”

                Lol ye I already saw your opinion on what you would support if an actual alternative outside the ballot existed. You’d go full fash :D

                Nothing like supporting the Vanguard Party suppressing democratic elections to really be a good anarchist, huh?

                The democratic elections that ultimately brought about Hitler. Sure, one of us definitelly supports a path that leads directly to fascism.

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                  Lol ye I already saw your opinion on what you would support if an actual alternative outside the ballot existed. You’d go full fash :D

                  … the “actual alternative outside the ballot” being proposed was a literal fucking coup explicitly along the lines of the ideology that had overthrown a democratically elected leftist government the year before.

                  “If you don’t support fascism with red paint, you’re the real fascist!”

                  And you wonder why I call you a tankie apologist.

                  The democratic elections that ultimately brought about Hitler. Sure, one of us definitelly supports a path that leads directly to fascism.

                  The dissolution of the united front brought down the left coalition in Weimar Germany, which brought about Hitler. The KPD, whose boots your are insistently licking, withdrew from the united front, at the behest of Stalin.

                  But tell me more about how your proposed fascist coup would have stopped fascism!

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                    I’m sure the paramilitary murders from the SPD had nothing to do with that.

                    It’s also fascinating how everything outside of capitalist liberal democracy is “fascist” to you now. Literally zero understanding of fascism. You sound like that meme from the Venezuelan diplomat.

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            Wild how every argument with you speedruns straight to hyper-fixating on what Americas enemies are doing.

            The argument here is literally about the Uyghur genocide, but nice try to whataboutism it around to your Americentric obsession.

            I would never play apologist for the fascist states of America and their genocidal war on the Palestinian people, You were the one spending all your energy browbeating everyone expressing disgust with genocide Joe and bomber Harris.

            I love how here you completely avoid the accusation in favor of whataboutism.

            America is going down a very fascist path and supporting Israel’s genocide of Palestine. Sadly, you think that somehow justifies playing apologist for China going down a fascist path and genociding Uyghurs, or the genocide of Ukrainians.

            I guess it’s GOOD genocide, unlike Israel’s BAD genocide!

            Funny hearing lectures on “what anarchism is” from a social democrat who’s more interested in purity testing leftists on lemmy than building anything outside the ballot box.

            Building parallel systems is something that I’ve repeatedly praised on here, but I understand that that’s inconvenient to your interest in attempting to paint me as trying to ‘purity test’ by insisting that genocide and fascism is Bad, Actually.

            Keep licking boots, fascist, it’s all you’re capable of, apparently.

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              I’m opposed to all states, I’m stuck in the US so I oppose its genocidal warmongering foremost 😎

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                I’m opposed to all states, I’m stuck in the US so I oppose its genocidal warmongering 😎

                Yet you consistently defend other genocidal warmongering states, what a curious form of opposition! Bootlicking Nazis, but saying it’s okay because you oppose Italian fascists - what a principled individual you are!

                Oh, no, wait, you’re just a bootlicking fascist who plays apologist for genocide if they wear the right ‘team colors’.

                It’s also cute that this comes in response to being called out for your Americentrism. Everything revolves around the US to you. Rather typical product of the American school system, ironically. Internalized all the lessons, just swapped the team colors. Instead of opposition to genocide, all you understand is opposition to one flag or another.