Starting with this post:

https://sh.itjust.works/post/44999037

Continues here:

https://sh.itjust.works/post/45035437

More posts discussing the fallout:

Dbzer0 admin claiming Uyghur genocide is ‘overblown and misrepresented’

Dbzer0 admin casually defending Uyghur genocide denial because “libs worse”, yikes

Banned from meanwhileongrad for “No db0 allowed”.

On Dbzer0, ‘harassing mods’ is when you criticize the top admin of .ml for responding to a Wiki link with a Lemmy search

Does lemmy.ml own db0? db0 denies the Uyghur genocide, begins to backtrack that maybe there are human rights abuses, and then immediately backs off as soon as lemmy.ml admin, Davel, steps in.

Tankie bar, db0, will remove your comments and ban you if you criticise lemmy.ml admin, Davel, for denying the Uyghur genocide

When the tankie bar, db0, is pushed about communists purging peasants, Davels swoops in with dehumanisation. Also, if you bring up the Holodomor then you’re a nazi.

Removed false allegations against goat from a post on db0

An anarchist tankie did a write-up of the constant use of ‘degenerate’ as an insult specifically in the MoG comm

Another anarchist tankie did a write-up of the situation

More links: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52444570

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/329886

https://sh.itjust.works/post/151703/234360

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/338067

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
        183·
        5 days ago

        PJ claims to be, somehow, they put “vaguely left” in their profile. They hate both Marxism and anarchism, though, and seem to always act as though they are the true judge of someone being Marxist or anarchist. They seem to love social democracy, itself right-wing. You’d think after getting disproven over and over again, they’d actually start to listen to the Marxists and anarchists, but instead they powertrip and ban all dissent. Toxic behavior, and kinda sad.

        Goat, on the other hand, has never claimed to be on the left to my knowledge. They’ve openly been pretty right wing this entire time. Toxic, but not sad, seems they just want to rile people up and provoke a reaction more than anything.

          • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
            111·
            5 days ago

            I consider the left to be pro-socialism, and anti-capitalism. Under that general umbrella, Marxism and anarchism are by far the largest umbrellas. There are some groups like the Zapatistas that reject both labels, and they are valid, but few in number.

            • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
              54·
              5 days ago

              Just throwing out there that you’re not the bar with which the left is measured.

              I appreciate your take but you aren’t an authority and nobody here is, and almost everyone around here seems to be incapable of understanding that their specific view isn’t the ideal.

              Purity tests are best left for fascism

              • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                131·
                5 days ago

                I’m not an authority, no. Never claimed to be. However, outside of the Zapatistas, I’m not sure I can even name a leftist movement that doesn’t draw directly from Marxism or anarchism in the modern era. Marxism generally is heavily influential over those for full collectivization, while anarchism is heavily influential over those that seek horizontalism and decentralization. Groups that reject both are usually just social democrats that wish to retain capitalism.

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
              61·
              5 days ago

              Not who you asked, but I’d say the closest outside Zapatismo is Nkruhmahism-Touréism, which draws heavy influence from Marxism-Leninism to my understanding but takes most of its influence specifically from Kwame Nkrumah and Ahmed Touré.

              • 𝔽𝕩𝕠𝕞𝕥@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                6·
                5 days ago

                That’s… obscure :D I’ve never heard of it, but it looks very interesting. From a very surface-level analysis, it looks quite similar to Nasserism, but probably less anti-communist lol

                Speaking of, while we’re talking about this, what are your thoughts about Nasser/Nasserism?

                • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                  51·
                  5 days ago

                  Nkrumahism-Touréism is gaining in popularity among pan-African socialists, but that’s about the extent of my knowledge on the subject. Quasi-socialist national liberation movements like Nasserism are generally progressive in moving against imperialism and towards self-determination, so in that frame it’s like a more progressive Baathism. In the context of imperialism as the primary obstacle to global socialism, those groups earn more critical support than comprador regimes.

                  That being said, I’m far from an expert on Nasser and Nasserism, the middle east is an area I’m quite undereducated on. Hoping to learn more about African struggles in the How Europe Underdeveloped Africa reading threads, but outside of Palestinian liberation and the various factions involved with it like the PFLP, Hezbollah, Hamas, etc, my knowledge for now is too low for me to really have an opinion beyond my general support for opposition to imperialism.

        • goat@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          12·
          5 days ago

          I’ve never labelled myself as anything. Not right, not left, not anything.