WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump “is fine”
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

  • HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world
    4·
    5 months ago

    I know you have to say this, but holy shit do I disagree.

    This person advocated significant violence and contributed to the deaths and loss of human rights of thousands. A good whack of the world would turn up hungover to work tomorrow after celebrating only a few inches over.

    • Drewelite@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
      1·
      5 months ago

      No better fuel for an extremist ideology then having a martyr. Trump isn’t the problem, it’s the millions who listen to him.

      • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
        2·
        5 months ago

        Trump is absolutely the problem when he’s the mouthpiece of American fascism. Why are we pretending his death would be bad? We’re a couple years from having concentration camps in the US if he wins and everyone’s wringing their hands over this attempt at saving millions of lives by taking one.

        Yea it might cause a civil war, that looks unavoidable at this point anyway. I’d rather civil war than concentration camps

        • Drewelite@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
          0·
          5 months ago

          They’re still waving the Confederate flag. What makes you think bullets will kill this ideology in round 2?

          • snooggums@midwest.socialEnglish
            1·
            5 months ago

            It would silence one of the most successful voices and hamper the movement, not kill the ideology itself.

            • Drewelite@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
              0·
              5 months ago

              And how do you kill the ideology? By having the most successful voice of it ultimately accomplish nothing and die as a sad old man.

              There’s a reason his rhetoric has been: “The election was stolen!” Because that feeling is powerful, that they were right on the cusp of doing something great, if only the enemy hadn’t poisoned it. It’s got the right mix of victimization and hope that really motivates a movement. You’ll get that 10x now that he’s victimized. And you’d get it 20x if he’s martyred.

              • snooggums@midwest.socialEnglish
                1·
                5 months ago

                You can’t kill any ideology.

                Nazis are still around.

                Confederate apologists are still around.

                The only effective end to the tyrrany of their ideology when it had enough momentum wasn’t strong words and voting. MAGA is about three small steps from turning the US into a literal fascist state.

                The only thing that holds authoritarian regimes like the MAGA crowd together are narcissists like Trump. They would collapse without someone as good at stoking their anger, and he really is the only one that is personally revered by the MAGA crowd. Sure, other grifters make money and get ciews, but nobody cares when the other grifters like Alex Jones face some justice.

                • Cuttlefish1111@lemmy.world
                  2·
                  5 months ago

                  We can educate and shame a population for voicing their support for said fascism. In fact it was working pretty well until Trump made it ok to be a bigot publicly again. That’s what’s the whole MAGA thing is about