I don’t give a single solitary fuck how jaded some motherfuckers are - People died so we could vote! Fucking DO IT.
So many goddamn toddlers out here like “weaaah why can’t everything work like magic! Waahh i don’t like the politics! I know everything about government and I pronounce it a dumb stupid thing because i dont like it!” Christ in a bucket we got nazis walking up the goddamn driveway and shitheads in here are all “ewww biden might lose, i demand offers for my partici-“ VOTE you assholes! ffs
This attitude is what is alienating gen Z from voting. You’re basically saying “want freedom?? choose exactly who I say!!!”. I’m sure you can see how it’s bad optics. It plays well in the Lemmy echo chamber, but ffs pay attention to other people.
No one can be forced to vote for a specific person, but the options are currently democrat or dictatorship. Not voting is a vote for the dictatorship. If it weren’t such a dangerous candidate then we wouldn’t be pushing for this vote. Blocking your ears and saying “lalala” doesn’t make things better. Ignorance won’t be bliss.
You’re being pretty disingenuous right now. I am telling you how this messaging is being received. The spaces I’m in on tiktok/instagram lean younger/more left than this site. The overwhelming response to this kind of rhetoric is frustration with this kind of messaging, which, has been at the forefront in several consecutive election cycles at this point. You can keep doing it, but it’s just alienating people and giving off the message that there is no room for discussion amongst committed Democrats. An election is not going to be won by only appealing to moderate Democrats, and moderate Democrats are the only people who will be influenced by this kind of messaging.
The response to my comment alone proves my point. Nobody is engaging with it, everyone is just like … well everyone should just vote for Biden because blah blah blah but not addressing the impact of this rhetoric, which I have explained, or the concerns amongst people not interested in voting for Biden.
Nothing anyone says here is going to make a difference. Let them tuck their heads in the sand. I removed all my explainer of how the system works and doesn’t work. I’m not gonna argue with zoomers who just want to make themselves look like a victim.
There were deep red states that swung to purple because people actually went and voted. You are one out of many saying this and therefore making it worse. If you don’t cast your vote then your vote actually means nothing and you’ve done nothing to change it.
Do you know everyone in your area? Do you know who all is voting? I used to say the same thing and now I vote in all elections including midterm because I see all these people who keep saying that their votes don’t matter and I never want to be part of that again. You are one out of hundreds saying the same thing who are part of the problem. Maybe if people actually used those few minutes to go vote then maybe that would change, but it’ll never happen if you sit around being defeatist.
I’ve been to my county and state fairs, LOOTS of red hats. You again seem to be assuming that I just sit on my butt and do nothing when I’ve said nothing of the sort, there’s a difference between being defeatist and acknowledging a very one sided battle.
“Don’t vote for fascists” is browbeating people, and mean, and besides Both Sides™, and nothing will change under a Trump administration, you’re all just scare mongering.
You know, the classic, hitting every cheap dogwhistle they can.
You’re basically saying “want freedom?? choose exactly who I say!!!”. I’m sure you can see how it’s bad optics.
Holy fucking shit, our options are “Fascism” or “Not-fascism”, sorry for finding only one of those actually acceptable?
It plays well in the Lemmy echo chamber, but ffs pay attention to other people.
It plays much worse in Lemmy than it does in real life, since in Lemmy there are always a seemingly endless number of commenters ready to throw a fit over the idea that preventing fascism is necessary.
No, I’m the guy who called you out for pretending that Trump is just “business as usual” and that your normalization of fascism was disgusting. You then descended into a series of non-sequiturs and tangents.
This attitude is what is alienating gen Z from voting.
Hey, y’know what alienated John Lewis from voting? THE KLAN. Y’know what alienated every woman from voting before 1920? All the asshole patriarchy your shitheaded tantrums continue to support.
So why don’t you take all the millions of Gen Z voters you represent, and your GRU playbook, and shut up. This is bullshit.
I don’t give a single solitary fuck how jaded some motherfuckers are - People died so we could vote! Fucking DO IT.
So many goddamn toddlers out here like “weaaah why can’t everything work like magic! Waahh i don’t like the politics! I know everything about government and I pronounce it a dumb stupid thing because i dont like it!” Christ in a bucket we got nazis walking up the goddamn driveway and shitheads in here are all “ewww biden might lose, i demand offers for my partici-“ VOTE you assholes! ffs
This attitude is what is alienating gen Z from voting. You’re basically saying “want freedom?? choose exactly who I say!!!”. I’m sure you can see how it’s bad optics. It plays well in the Lemmy echo chamber, but ffs pay attention to other people.
No one can be forced to vote for a specific person, but the options are currently democrat or dictatorship. Not voting is a vote for the dictatorship. If it weren’t such a dangerous candidate then we wouldn’t be pushing for this vote. Blocking your ears and saying “lalala” doesn’t make things better. Ignorance won’t be bliss.
You’re being pretty disingenuous right now. I am telling you how this messaging is being received. The spaces I’m in on tiktok/instagram lean younger/more left than this site. The overwhelming response to this kind of rhetoric is frustration with this kind of messaging, which, has been at the forefront in several consecutive election cycles at this point. You can keep doing it, but it’s just alienating people and giving off the message that there is no room for discussion amongst committed Democrats. An election is not going to be won by only appealing to moderate Democrats, and moderate Democrats are the only people who will be influenced by this kind of messaging.
The response to my comment alone proves my point. Nobody is engaging with it, everyone is just like … well everyone should just vote for Biden because blah blah blah but not addressing the impact of this rhetoric, which I have explained, or the concerns amongst people not interested in voting for Biden.
Nothing anyone says here is going to make a difference. Let them tuck their heads in the sand. I removed all my explainer of how the system works and doesn’t work. I’m not gonna argue with zoomers who just want to make themselves look like a victim.
I’m not a zoomer, like I said, I’m explaining my observations.
My county and state are deep red, my blue vote actually doesn’t matter.
There were deep red states that swung to purple because people actually went and voted. You are one out of many saying this and therefore making it worse. If you don’t cast your vote then your vote actually means nothing and you’ve done nothing to change it.
I never said I dont vote, just that it doesn’t matter when I’m a very small minority. I’ll believe my area can swing when I see it.
Do you know everyone in your area? Do you know who all is voting? I used to say the same thing and now I vote in all elections including midterm because I see all these people who keep saying that their votes don’t matter and I never want to be part of that again. You are one out of hundreds saying the same thing who are part of the problem. Maybe if people actually used those few minutes to go vote then maybe that would change, but it’ll never happen if you sit around being defeatist.
I’ve been to my county and state fairs, LOOTS of red hats. You again seem to be assuming that I just sit on my butt and do nothing when I’ve said nothing of the sort, there’s a difference between being defeatist and acknowledging a very one sided battle.
Wonder how many people like you are there in your county and state.
Not very many, clearly.
Note how they did NOT state who to vote for though, so actually, no you are wrong
Reading comprehension reveals that this commenter wants people to vote for Biden.
Because they said not to vote for Nazis? Wow, big points for the red team over here
“Don’t vote for fascists” is browbeating people, and mean, and besides Both Sides™, and nothing will change under a Trump administration, you’re all just scare mongering.
You know, the classic, hitting every cheap dogwhistle they can.
They just want to agitate for fascism. Below they admit that they don’t see Trump as any exceptional threat and that the US is already fascist.
Why they think voting matters at all in a fascist state, I’m not sure, but it’s probably completely logically consistent will all of their claims. /s
Holy fucking shit, our options are “Fascism” or “Not-fascism”, sorry for finding only one of those actually acceptable?
It plays much worse in Lemmy than it does in real life, since in Lemmy there are always a seemingly endless number of commenters ready to throw a fit over the idea that preventing fascism is necessary.
Oh you’re the guy who is pretending that fascist extremeism is a new phenomenon in the United States?
Look into the history of the Japanese Concentration camps. Or our modern-day legalized slavery system, as protected by the constitution.
No, I’m the guy who called you out for pretending that Trump is just “business as usual” and that your normalization of fascism was disgusting. You then descended into a series of non-sequiturs and tangents.
You’re mad at me for saying the United States is fascist, you should be mad at the United States for being fascist.
What other word would you use to describe a country with legalized slavery and concentration camps?
Hey, y’know what alienated John Lewis from voting? THE KLAN. Y’know what alienated every woman from voting before 1920? All the asshole patriarchy your shitheaded tantrums continue to support.
So why don’t you take all the millions of Gen Z voters you represent, and your GRU playbook, and shut up. This is bullshit.
I’m not even Gen Z, I’m young millennial.
But also. Uhm. I don’t think that leftists were restricting voting rights. You’re coming across a lil like, Q-anon, chronically online here.
But yeah, telling people to shut up is exactly why people are like. Hm. Why support the party of “shut up”?
What the fuck does that have to do with anything??
You’re coming across like a deliberately obtuse and ill-informed twit. Enjoy the reich you so cluelessly want.
Who spells Qanon with a hyphen??
my unhinged stranger in Christ, you brought up woman’s suffrage
Yes? As a movement required to bring half the population in America the vote? It was a huge effort many people sacrificed for? Yes, yes?
People have died for tons of reasons
I award you “most ambiguous comment in this thread”. Congrats
Not really ambiguous. Just because someone has died for a system, doesn’t mean it’s worth supporting that system.