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      5 months ago

      A hit to a vest definitely has a real chance to kill him. Vests distribute the impact, but they’re still massive chest trauma for a 70-something dude.

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        Absolutely it could. Vest or no vest, I don’t want to get shot. But “aim for center of mass” is only the rule of thumb when the center of mass is unprotected. Otherwise, it becomes “aim for the material specifically designed to stop bullets” which is not a great rule of thumb.

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          It also depends on the bullet and rifle, I kinda doubt there are many bullet proof vests that can br qord under clothes that can hold up against a .308.

          But im gonna hazard a guess that some 20 year old trying to do an assassination was probably using an AR-15 chambered in 5.56. Which I would coin flip on if the vest could handle it or not.

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      No way would USSS be able to get his fat ass to wear a vest consistently, let alone the plates needed to stop a rifle round. In this heat?

      Though I’m sure now he may reconsider, or be forced to.

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        There is no bulletproof tuxedo like in the movies. There is 5.56 ammo that will go through any soft armor.

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            Nothing that would line a suit and still have it look anything like a suit wouldn’t protect against anything worth being protected against. A bulletproof vest isn’t magic armor that makes you invulnerable. A shot from anything realistic would easily break multiple bones and cause internal damage. And that’s with the bullet stopping at the vest.

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              A shot from anything realistic would easily break multiple bones and cause internal damage.

              That seems marginally better than getting shot with no protection at all. It wouldn’t blow my mind if they had some sort of protection on him.

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              No one said armor prevents any damage at all,
              You’re pulling that out of your ass. In fact other posts in this thread are talking about how even without penetration, the distributed force from armor stopping a bullet could still be fatal for a 70+ year old.

              Back on the actual topic, Hacksmith made a bespoke suit that could stop small arms with publicly accessible materials for $100k. And all of their testing was at pretty close range.

              It is not infeasible for a former President and current candidate’s suit used during outdoor public events like this to have some sort of material to mitigate embedded in it, even if it isn’t obviously won’t provide the same protection as full armor. Every little bit helps.

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          Have you seen Trump’s suits? Dude could be wearing half inch plate under that monstrosity.

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        People act like a bulletproof vest/suit is outlandish when we’re talking about a guy who has a bulletproof car and like 25 snipers watching his back lol. When he was president he had anti aircraft guns on the roof of his house. The secret service takes their job really seriously.