• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    This is wild.

    I also think it’s objectively the right call, in the context of taking the most aggressive and pragmatic approach to stopping the fascists.

    Also, in response to this quip from the relevant WaPo article:

    The Democrats’ predicament — a candidate dropping out after sweeping mostly unchallenged through the party primaries to become the presumptive nominee — is unknown in the modern era.

    We need to be absolutely, completely fucking crystal clear here: the root cause of all this drama (as well as the electoral faceplant in 2016) is the DNC leadership and how they run the primary. They let the donor class sideline extremely compelling candidates because they’re not neoliberal or corporate-friendly enough for their tastes, and then we get a milquetoast “electable” candidate.

    There are very real reasons why so many people are unenthused by Biden, despite his accomplishments on paper. Pretending the primary process is actually fair and actually yields the best leadership candidates is an exercise in self deception.

    At any rate: I hope the DNC’s old and new guard can just agree to be pragmatic and stop the fucking fascists at all costs for the next few months.

  • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.world
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    Depending on how the election works out in November, this is either going to be remembered as an honorable and strategic move or one of the biggest political blunders in history.

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      the Democrats have been cornered over the last 40 years. I think the only move is the bold move.

      dems have got to show the country they can make and take hard choices and whatever process is used to select a nominee, make it as transparent and democratic as possible.

      we are at the very last peaceful bulwark for a representative democratic government. light a fire under the citizenry and trust that our (possibly) last hope is our best hope. 2024/25 is gonna be rough.

      edit: youtube Ani DiFranco - Your Next Bold Move - 11/11/2016 - Paste Studios, New York, NY (apologies in advance if non-news links are bad mojo)

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      It won’t be remembered as a blunder, because there was no circumstance where Biden would have won in November. Not after that debate.

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        It is absolutely insane that Trump told lie after lie after lie in that debate and no one gave a shit. But Biden stumbled over a few words, and somehow that makes him incompetent to be president. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with American voters?

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          Trump isn’t held to any standard. That’s the thing. No one has any great expectations of Trump. His campaign should have been over when he mocked a reporter’s disability, but it wasn’t.

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            That’s just it. Democrats are expected to be perfect; if the cons fuck up, lie, commit crime, even attempt a coup, it gets a collective shrug and a “boys will be boys” kind of attitude, even if it’s girls like Empty G.

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        Yeah. Tbh I dislike Harris 10x more than Biden but I know she’ll actually be able to stand up to Trump at the next debate. There was never any amount of prep the Biden team could’ve given to Joe that would’ve helped him in September. It’s for the best, but things just got a lot less predictable now.

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    To every one of you in here who spent the last year defending him: shut the fuck up. It was obvious he is a senile segregationist piece of garbage. You need to reevaluate all your political opinions.

    • Queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Well we didn’t have any meanjngful primaries with him in it anyways. The DNC will probably just pick whoever Biden wants when he gives the press confrense, as that’s just easier and “passing the torch”.

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        I’m glad he dropped out, I feel like we actually have a shot in November. But with his endorsement of Kamala, which makes sense since she will face the fewest legal and logistical issues of any replacement, the Democrats have corrupted an incredibly important milestone if we do win. The first woman to be POTUS, the first woman of color to be POTUS, will have a tarnished legacy since she skipped the primary process (and skipped out in 2020 before any votes were even cast).

        That’s three incredibly ill-handled presidential primaries in a row. Do better, Democrats.

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    Probably the right decision, I think, if very late. Will be interesting to see how the Democrats will go about this now. Kamala Harris seems like an obvious replacement, but is she really popular enough? Might be because I’m European, but she was never on the news for anything here and I know next to nothing about her.

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      Biden wasn’t popular either. people didn’t vote for him, they voted against the other guy.

      everyone hates Harris for saying weird shit, not being very charismatic, and being a prosecutor, all fair… but her voting record is actually incredibly good.

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    What have I been saying for months now? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Edit: I’m a time traveler. It gets crazier. Taylor Swift will be POTUS in the 2024 election. /s