• blarth@thelemmy.club
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    5 months ago

    Look, all these posts from accounts on lemmygrad, chapotraphouse members, lemmy.ml…they’re all bullshit. I’m convinced that they are entirely Russian trolls. There is no making them happy with slightly left of center. It seems they’ll never be happy until America has been destroyed. There is no point to placating them or even acknowledging their existence.

    The “genocide Joe” moniker was particularly stupid. Do you really think Joe Biden was going to single handedly denounce Israel and kill off a key strategic alliance because of a few extremists? It is a completely silly notion.

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      Leaving aside the actual political substance of your comment. Don’t you think it’s a bit… Head in the sand to assume anyone who disagrees with you is some “Russian troll”? I know we all exist in social media bubbles, myself included, but my social circles and my online circles all share “radical” concerns about the administration and country in general but it generally comes from a genuine desire for our politicians and therefore country to be and do better. We’re all Americans just like (I presume) you.

      I joined lemmy.ml cause of the FOSS stuff but I’m learning it comes with a reputation I didn’t know about.

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      they’ll never be happy until America has been destroyed

      it’s important to slap down the nonsense and call out the bullshit at every opportunity. they’re coming out of the woodwork to harass and manipulate everyone into second guessing themselves, for the sole purpose of getting trump into the white house.

      fuck that shit.

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        The problem is this isn’t true. I hate Biden but I despise the way Trump makes him look decent comparatively. How long can keep running slightly worse candidates compared to your previous one (hopefully Harris bucks this trend)?

        People who call out Biden get called single issue voters; by people who’s only concern is Trump doesn’t get elected. They are ignoring absymal healthcare, terrible foreign policy, horrible housing prices, costly food bills, even the stable finicial sector is now losing jobs due to the AI craze.

        I understand why people are worried about Trump. Still, we need candidates who actually want to run the country correctly and not just cater to the rich. We cannot sacrifice everything because the news makes Trump to be all powerful.

        harass and manipulate everyone into second guessing themselves, for the sole purpose of getting trump into the white house.

        You are gas lighting. We need to start caling this everytime we see it. Otherwise, you would bother people on Truth Social and Twitter (or even reddit which actually has a population that could matter in a national election) if you wanted people to stop voting for Trump. But that would make too much sense.

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          Gaslighting? What?

          You’re never going to get the perfect candidate until we reform elections (ranked choice, more parties, get rid of citizens united).

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            Gaslighting is a colloquialism, defined as manipulating someone into questioning their own perception of reality. - Wikipedia

            You cannot blame us for not liking Biden when he does not cater to us. We are not the problem, even if you manage to phrase the issue to make it seem we are at fault.

            You’re never going to get the perfect candidate until we reform elections (ranked choice, more parties, get rid of citizens united).

            Absolutely keep voting the most liberal Congress people you can. But let’s not kid ourselves: you have to vote for the people who want reform election to get reform election - and Biden isn’t one of those people.

            Edit: extended last sentence to make it make more sense

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                Trump is a distraction. He’s a tool to compromise values and pretend we have a common goal. Yelling at Biden accomplished more already than fearing Trump.

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                    Absolutely not. I don’t want him to win. The original person I replied to stated that those who hate Biden secretly want Trump to win. Which is false. It’s an outright lie. I’m over this game of OMG McCain, Romney, Trump, etc. may win so compromise your values and slowly let this country rot or risk everything collapsing.