Watson, founder of Sea Shepherd and co-founder of Greenpeace, has been arrested on an international warrant and is facing charges including accomplice to assault and ship trespass
Since the eighties Sea Shepherd, led by Paul Watson, has been using images from Faroese whale slaughter to spread propaganda in order to gain financial support and volunteers. If you have seen images of a bays surrounded by green mountains coloured red in the blood of pilot whales. That’s my people.
Don’t get me wrong. Those images are real, thought often over saturated for dramatic effect. But everything else told by SS is either exaggerated or blatant lies.
These lies garner attacks on anyone remotely contacted to the Faroe Islands (often also Denmark, because uninformed people don’t know the difference). Even children are fair game. Kids are taught not to post anything Faroes related, because they WILL be harassed for it.
Don’t believe me? Go to any r/travel or r/EarthPorn post about the Faroes and you will see comments wishing death upon the poster and all the inhabitants. We are all guilty by association.
You should be able to get your point across without spreading lies and hatred. Especially when it comes up whaling. But it’s not about the whaling itself. It’s about getting people riled up so they join your cult.
Faroese cuisine is generally dominated by the use of animal products, as only about 2% of the 1,393 km2 of land on the islands is at all suitable for arable crops
a 2008 paper in Australian Archaeology said conservationists find Faroese whaling particularly offensive because it does not conform to traditional Western perspectives on “primitive” tribes
So if Sea Shepherd’s attacks were all honest, there would be less vitriol?
Does he lie in a specific way that implicates innocent people? (vs. lying in a way that garners broader attention and the attention is what drives the additional hate) Curious for some examples as someone low-information on the subject.
Yes. It is fairly common for SS volunteers to settle on the Faroes after falling in love with the culture. They go to fight against barbarians who torment whales for fun and sport, but find kind hearted people who utilize an abundant food source in the most humaim way possible. Also there are other anti whaling-organisations whose members are civil.
There are three types of lies. The main ones are attacks on the Faroese people, how they enjoy blood sport, and torturing animas. These are aimed at everyone but men get a few special ones like how rape and spousal abuse is rampant on the Faroes.
Secondly there are lies about the slaughter itself, how long it takes, how much suffering there is etc.
And lastly there are factual lies. That pilot whales are on the brink of extinction and that the Faroes kill like 90% of them without eating the meat.
Paul isn’t out harassing inuit communities. Do you know why? Because inuit communities practice ACTUAL sustenance hunting, not a tradition of slaughter dressed up as “culture”. Do not disgrace actual caretakers of the land to cover up your barbarism
I can’t speak on all inuit communities, but I know enough to know that you are ignorant.
I know that Greenlanders are allowed to hunt whales of varying degrees of endangerment with traditional tools in small numbers in order to preserve cultural heritage.
This is less sustainable and surely less humane than Faroese practices. Whether it’s worth persevering the heritage is a completely different question.
The reason why SS target the Faroes is because if the gory images of slaughtering in the open combined with the general ignorance of the rest of the would on the topic.
There are many nations that do whaling, none of whom do it more humanely than the Faroes, yet only a few are harassed by SS, and none to the same degree.
"how dare you call us out for the horrific things we’re doing ". Like you don’t even pretend it’s fake.
Hey, you don’t like people shitting on your country? How about you make them stop slaughtering whales for no fucking reason.
Like, I’m sorry, am I supposed to feel bad that people are rightfully calling you out for that shit? Is your country not a modern, functioning society? Are you really incapable of shedding these pointless barbaric traditions, and would rather just cry about it when someone dares to call you out?
Let me guess, “I refuse to discuss this with you” or whatever. Like you response to the other person.
I’m beginning to think you have more at stake in this than just being from the same country. I’m from the US, dude, my country is shit and there’s a million things to criticize it for… And you can’t even admit the one thing your home is known for is barbaric
Is your country not a modern, functioning society? Are you really incapable of shedding these pointless barbaric traditions, and would rather just cry about it when someone dares to call you out?
Have you actually looked into the topic or are you simply assuming? The Faroese regulations on whaling are extensive, from what methods are allowed to beach the whales to how the killing is to be done so it’s quick.
I’m from the US, dude
Then you should really focus on the complete absence of any animal protection laws in the US, instead. The Faroese didn’t even blink when outlawing the traditional way to kill the whales in favour of spinal lancing, yes of course whales bleeding out in shallow bays is a gruesome sight. And they own that, while risking their lives driving the whales in small boats.
Meanwhile, US consumers are safely isolated from the absolutely abhorrent conditions their food is produced under. The bloody bays aren’t avoidable, they come (literally) with the territory. Chicken rotting while still alive because they’re so tightly packed and hygiene isn’t an issue because you’re chlorinating them anyway is avoidable.
It’s you, here, who’s alienated from how food is produced, not the Faroese.
Since the eighties Sea Shepherd, led by Paul Watson, has been using images from Faroese whale slaughter to spread propaganda in order to gain financial support and volunteers. If you have seen images of a bays surrounded by green mountains coloured red in the blood of pilot whales. That’s my people.
Don’t get me wrong. Those images are real, thought often over saturated for dramatic effect. But everything else told by SS is either exaggerated or blatant lies.
These lies garner attacks on anyone remotely contacted to the Faroe Islands (often also Denmark, because uninformed people don’t know the difference). Even children are fair game. Kids are taught not to post anything Faroes related, because they WILL be harassed for it.
Don’t believe me? Go to any r/travel or r/EarthPorn post about the Faroes and you will see comments wishing death upon the poster and all the inhabitants. We are all guilty by association.
You should be able to get your point across without spreading lies and hatred. Especially when it comes up whaling. But it’s not about the whaling itself. It’s about getting people riled up so they join your cult.
Maybe you guys should stop slaughtering whales
Right? It’s real fucking simple.
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Then, while it’s going on, don’t be surprised that people see your country in a poor light
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Still nothing WHAT they allegedly lied about, only what the effects of said pictures were.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whaling_in_the_Faroe_Islands
But, you see, I think my culture is superior so they should stop.
Anyway, who’s up for an ethically* slaughtered cow that I’ve raised in a box?
Wow I didn’t realize that cows were endangered. I also didn’t realize that we slaughtered cows by drowning them.
Both long-finned pilot whales and Atlantic white-sided dolphins aren’t endangered, they’re least concern. They’ve always been hunting sustainably.
Yeah this has mad “shooting the messenger” vibes
So if Sea Shepherd’s attacks were all honest, there would be less vitriol?
Does he lie in a specific way that implicates innocent people? (vs. lying in a way that garners broader attention and the attention is what drives the additional hate) Curious for some examples as someone low-information on the subject.
Yes. It is fairly common for SS volunteers to settle on the Faroes after falling in love with the culture. They go to fight against barbarians who torment whales for fun and sport, but find kind hearted people who utilize an abundant food source in the most humaim way possible. Also there are other anti whaling-organisations whose members are civil.
There are three types of lies. The main ones are attacks on the Faroese people, how they enjoy blood sport, and torturing animas. These are aimed at everyone but men get a few special ones like how rape and spousal abuse is rampant on the Faroes. Secondly there are lies about the slaughter itself, how long it takes, how much suffering there is etc. And lastly there are factual lies. That pilot whales are on the brink of extinction and that the Faroes kill like 90% of them without eating the meat.
Paul isn’t out harassing inuit communities. Do you know why? Because inuit communities practice ACTUAL sustenance hunting, not a tradition of slaughter dressed up as “culture”. Do not disgrace actual caretakers of the land to cover up your barbarism
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289731260_The_Faroes_Grindadrap_or_Pilot_Whale_Hunt_The_Importance_of_it's_'Traditional'_Status_in_Debates_with_Conservationists
I can’t speak on all inuit communities, but I know enough to know that you are ignorant.
I know that Greenlanders are allowed to hunt whales of varying degrees of endangerment with traditional tools in small numbers in order to preserve cultural heritage.
This is less sustainable and surely less humane than Faroese practices. Whether it’s worth persevering the heritage is a completely different question.
The reason why SS target the Faroes is because if the gory images of slaughtering in the open combined with the general ignorance of the rest of the would on the topic.
There are many nations that do whaling, none of whom do it more humanely than the Faroes, yet only a few are harassed by SS, and none to the same degree.
"how dare you call us out for the horrific things we’re doing ". Like you don’t even pretend it’s fake.
Hey, you don’t like people shitting on your country? How about you make them stop slaughtering whales for no fucking reason.
Like, I’m sorry, am I supposed to feel bad that people are rightfully calling you out for that shit? Is your country not a modern, functioning society? Are you really incapable of shedding these pointless barbaric traditions, and would rather just cry about it when someone dares to call you out?
Let me guess, “I refuse to discuss this with you” or whatever. Like you response to the other person.
I’m beginning to think you have more at stake in this than just being from the same country. I’m from the US, dude, my country is shit and there’s a million things to criticize it for… And you can’t even admit the one thing your home is known for is barbaric
Have you actually looked into the topic or are you simply assuming? The Faroese regulations on whaling are extensive, from what methods are allowed to beach the whales to how the killing is to be done so it’s quick.
Then you should really focus on the complete absence of any animal protection laws in the US, instead. The Faroese didn’t even blink when outlawing the traditional way to kill the whales in favour of spinal lancing, yes of course whales bleeding out in shallow bays is a gruesome sight. And they own that, while risking their lives driving the whales in small boats.
Meanwhile, US consumers are safely isolated from the absolutely abhorrent conditions their food is produced under. The bloody bays aren’t avoidable, they come (literally) with the territory. Chicken rotting while still alive because they’re so tightly packed and hygiene isn’t an issue because you’re chlorinating them anyway is avoidable.
It’s you, here, who’s alienated from how food is produced, not the Faroese.
Why would I engage with you? It’s a waste of my time and yours.
Take it as a victory if you want. It doesn’t bother me.