• ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world
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    Americans actually do shoot quite well, but the rules around gun handling are incredibly strict for Olympic shooting.

    Things like minor celebrations, emotion, or even the cadence of your walk while leaving the range can cause disqualification.

    Since American shooters can’t hit a bullseye without shotgunning a beer and magdumping into the sky as eagles carry exploding fireworks in celebration, they often do not place in Olympic shooting

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      “I can tolerate precision shooting, but I draw the line at emotional regulation!”

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      Or in other words, what’s missing from our country’s gun use is respect.

      The vast majority of our issues with gun violence is the fact that we disrespect guns almost as much as each other, they’re just another crass tool for achieving a feeling, like power, masculinity, reassurance and comfort. So then guess what happens when you flood the streets with more guns than every other developed nation combined?

      We are a nation of undisciplined shooters, they may shoot “quite well” in some cases, but for every shooter who does quite well at hitting a target you have several thousand who have no idea how to shoot, AND have no clue about gun safety, respect and responsible ownership.

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        Well, sure, but you don’t send a random selection of citizens to the Olympics. You send the best.

        The nation with the most gun owners per capita and a huge population should have many pinnacle-tier shooters, even if it also has many bad ones. So the question is, why aren’t they at the Olympics?

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          Honestly? Opportunity. It starts with money, or willingness for you or your parents to give up everything that isn’t training.

          I was in the service with some incredible shots. I’ve been on the range with some pretty incredible shots. Most of them would never have the opportunity for any number of reasons.

          Some of that comes down to simply money. Flavor Flav is sponsoring our women’s water polo team because some of them were working three jobs while training to stay afloat. Not everyone wants to or even can do that.

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          A lot of the people who would be excellent at shooting have no interest in specifically Olympic shooting or training for the type of shooting required, unfortunately. That, and the military has probably poached the best of the best, and don’t want to show what “best of the best” shooting looks like for strategic reasons.

          (side note, happy cake day!)

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        smells like the gymnastics problem to me, incredibly strict ruling and doing things “too dangerous” will get points knocked off to me.

        You certainly don’t need to a fucking psychopath to shoot guns respectfully, but you also shouldn’t be deranged either.

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        Respect is a big part of it. Another problem is that they aren’t seen as actual tools. They’re probably more often a male enhancement device than a tool.

        They should be viewed as a tool for the production of meat, for the efficient removal of varmints. In the worst case they are a tool for the defense of self or others. That worst case scenario is actually very rare.

        Tools and toys can be interchangeable. However: some pretty strict laws govern the use of toys like sports cars.

        My shooting tools are mostly polymer stocked or gripped. Plain, cheapest base model I can get. Then I take them apart and work on the mechanisms to make them mine. I don’t have a lot of them, just have a few for my particular use cases.

        I really like them. I get pleasure from using my tools. I also really like my lathe and my daily driver small truck. I’ve also taken them apart and worked on them.

        I think this attitude should be required if one is going to own and be responsible for such a dangerous tool. There should be an interview process or something to weed out dumb fucks and the mentally unstable. After all, the militia was supposed to be well regulated. It’s not particularly complicated.

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      The Olympic venue is probably intimidating when you’re used to using schools as shooting ranges.

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      yeah i was gonna ask, do we even have a team that runs for this? I feel like we would’ve heard about it otherwise, yknow, being american and all that.