Also its like you cant do math. An 8k return. No monthly deduction just about. Food stamps. Subsidise electricity. State healthcare. Paying about a grand less per month to live on top of an 8k return means he practically makes 20k more than me because he decided to have kids he couldnt afford.
Your mindset is that kids are somehow encapsulated and isolated property and not full individuals who are lacking any real agency, who will grow up as member of the community to the quality that their upbringing allowed them.
Spending money on ensuring children have healthy and safe childhoods is both the easiest moral and easiest social financial decision of all time.
Children cannot decide to be alive, they cannot decide the environment they are in, they cannot decide their parents, or make any reasonable effort to change those circumstances. It doesn’t matter what decisions their parents make or made, we still have a choice to either let those without agency suffer or not.
Beyond that, if you have the moral backbone of some worm, then think about this: children who grow up financially secure result in adults who are simply more productive and less costly than those who are not. To the point where an adult who had that security during childhood will easily contribute far more than it cost for that security. They are already earning their keep.
Having no deductions is a function of what you put on your W4, not of having kids.
I’ve been on both sides of the coin, it’s not you subsidizing the earned income credit, it’s me and others like me who have ~$4,000 a month taken from our pay and am perfectly content to have it pay for someone’s kids or the local school rather than more military gear. You will get most of all of that $500/month back, or could just adjust the deducts to not have it taken to begin with.
Back when I did work at wage slave level that EIC was a huge win to have the kids not living in pure squaller, one which I took in as a step child. That was still a once a year thing though.
Also its like you cant do math. An 8k return. No monthly deduction just about. Food stamps. Subsidise electricity. State healthcare. Paying about a grand less per month to live on top of an 8k return means he practically makes 20k more than me because he decided to have kids he couldnt afford.
Your mindset is that kids are somehow encapsulated and isolated property and not full individuals who are lacking any real agency, who will grow up as member of the community to the quality that their upbringing allowed them.
Spending money on ensuring children have healthy and safe childhoods is both the easiest moral and easiest social financial decision of all time.
Children cannot decide to be alive, they cannot decide the environment they are in, they cannot decide their parents, or make any reasonable effort to change those circumstances. It doesn’t matter what decisions their parents make or made, we still have a choice to either let those without agency suffer or not.
Beyond that, if you have the moral backbone of some worm, then think about this: children who grow up financially secure result in adults who are simply more productive and less costly than those who are not. To the point where an adult who had that security during childhood will easily contribute far more than it cost for that security. They are already earning their keep.
Having no deductions is a function of what you put on your W4, not of having kids.
I’ve been on both sides of the coin, it’s not you subsidizing the earned income credit, it’s me and others like me who have ~$4,000 a month taken from our pay and am perfectly content to have it pay for someone’s kids or the local school rather than more military gear. You will get most of all of that $500/month back, or could just adjust the deducts to not have it taken to begin with.
Back when I did work at wage slave level that EIC was a huge win to have the kids not living in pure squaller, one which I took in as a step child. That was still a once a year thing though.