It’s a shame that Americans have been deprived of community for so long that they feel this way. Accommodating people takes so little effort
Yeah, but if she held up a sign saying “people can grill vegetables too” then we wouldn’t be talking about it. Controversy sells clicks and drives engagement…
Yeh but this is Lemmy and the picture is even hosted on a Lemmy server. Ain’t nobody paying for clicks from some tiny niche community of Linux nerds and disgruntled reddit refugees.
It still is survivorship bias
Ya’ll know you can grill vegetables right? You can actually eat other things than solely meat at a cookout, and most vegetables pair pretty well with meat.
And it is delicious. I grill peppers, asparagus, chicory, cauliflower, onions, whole garlic bulbs, mushrooms, you name it. In combination with fresh herbs, salad or cabbage, baked potato, spiced oils, vinaigrette, compound butter and bread you can make a vegatarian welcome at a BBQ. Then there is the whole vegetable burgers and stuff, seitan…tofu et cetera.
Fuck now I’m really hungry for grilled peppers
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Yup! I grill corn when it’s in season, mushrooms, and make foil packets with potatoes, peppers, onions, and garlic and grill those as well. Also works great for making baked potatoes.
Grilled is hands down the best way to prepare veggies.
Imagine intentionally not accommodating your vegan or vegetarian friends. Absolutely deranged behaviour
Would a vegan/vegetarian buy and cook meat if they hosted a BBQ?
I was vegetarian for 11 years, fully plant based for 2, and I did cook meat at events with people who ate meat. No demographic is a singularity, though, and there are many veggie folk who wouldn’t, either on ethical grounds or on grounds of having no bloody clue how to cook meat properly.
im sorry do you not have veggies of any kind at your bbqs to make this dichotomy make sense? you’re missing out
I never said that but ok…
So then why dont vegetarians have any options at them? why does “vegan/vegetarian wouldnt accomodate meat” a logical follow on to not accomodating vegetarians at an omnivores bbq?
I dunno, I’m not the fuckin BBQ gatekeeper here. Frankly, I don’t really care, do whatever the hell you want. I’m so sick of these dumb ass arguments that will literally go nowhere because people do what they want. Go eat a pepper
Is meat eating a moral or religious belief?
It’s a sustenance thing…
So are vegetables, pussy.
Is pussy really a sustenance thing though?
I’m willing to try.
It is if you stay down there long enough
Hey let’s insult people to get their minds to change, it’s the smart thing to do
I mean maybe, maybe not. Completely different argument though. You don’t have a moral or ethical opposition to eating food that is vegetarian or supporting it as an industry. (Or, at least, you shouldn’t and if you do then I have questions)
But they’d make sure that there were gluten free buns if there was someone who couldn’t eat gluten, which is a more apt comparison.
My Vegetarian friend did this yesterday. He was the only vegetarian at the BBQ he threw.
Probably? I don’t eat meat at home save for very specific occasions and I would but, you know, there are a lot of different people out there.
Which of your “friends” do you dislike so much that you invite them to a bbq but are absolutely unwilling to make food that they will eat?
When I cook I cater to my guests, because I like them, their company, and want them to come and feel welcome.
The exact opposite happened to me. My work was having an employee appreciation BBQ and said they’d be serving hotdogs and burgers. I packed my own lunch since I’m vegetarian. I ate my lunch in the cafeteria alone to avoid explaining why I wasn’t eating hotdogs and burgers. I went out after to hang out with everyone and as the BBQ is ending the manager threw out a bunch of food and staff were like “Woah what if someone wanted to take those home??” And the manager said “they’re veggie dogs and burgers. I guess nobody is vegetarian here”. He even said he made sure the meat was kosher/halal so anyone could take part in the staff appreciation BBQ. Like…bruh…thank you.
Legend
Why invite vegetarians and then not give vegetarian options?
That’s not be(e)ing very nice, Chris.
If I’m at a BBQ, I’ve been invited to it. The person who invited me to it absolutely knows that I am vegetarian and have been vegetarian for 28 years. Choosing not to accommodate that would be a pretty horrible thing to do.
And if I bring stuff to cater for myself such as halloumi, veg sausages, etc, don’t expect me to share with you!
If ur bbq doesn’t have vegetables you’re gonna be strugglin on the toilet later, but hey chase your bliss I guess
That’s what the beer is for.
ah yes, all of the zero grams of dietary fiber in beer, how could I forget
Can’t spell dietary fiber without diarrhea
If eating fiber gives you diarrhea, your diet could use a little work
Stop expecting me to come to your BBQ. Fuck all these social gatherings where alcoholics and meat eaters expect everyone to show up and not do anything different than their unhealthy habits.
I mean, you shouldn’t expect anything particular at a BBQ that you’re not bringing yourself or like helping with the planning of. Like, hamburgers and hotdogs are pretty standard, but if I showed up at someone else’s BBQ and all they had was ribs I’d be kind of an ass for whining about it.
But like… why are vegetarian options specifically a problem? Is this something that’s coming up? Is there like, a rash of vegetarians throwing a fit about it? Did someone get invited to a BBQ and ask if there’d be a veggie option? You know, like, so they could participate in a social event with their meat-eating friends?
This kind of stuff usually feels to me like people who eat meat and don’t want to think about the cost in suffering pointing a finger at people who abstain so they don’t have to think about it. Like, I personally do eat meat. I find that my brain functions better with a little animal fat than without. Buuut I’m also well aware of how much torture goes on in the process of making that meat, and I at least try to minimize the calorie to suffering ratio.
That’s not to say that I’m going to spend my days criticizing people who don’t choose to push against the horrific system of factory farming that supports our societal penchant for meat, but I do think about it. And I have noticed that certain meat-eaters seem to be pretty defensive about it, which generally translates into being shitty to people who don’t eat meat.
Posts like this coming unprompted certainly seem like that kind of defensive behavior to me.
Anyway, food for thought.
Agreed! This is an awesome comment. Thank you for putting it all into words so well! :)
I think it doesn’t seem like a kind post like Beehaw is supposed to be. I’m also not sure why it’s in the ‘humor’ community.
Something I’ve learned as a vegan is that it’s pretty socially acceptable to kick vegans (and I guess vegetarians?) even among leftists. To the point where it’s almost a meme in some vegan social media circles I used to frequent.
When I have a BBQ, even where all the guests are meat eaters, I still like to have a potato salad and vegetable skewers and bread and sometimes a regular salad and roasted corn and sometimes roasted eggplant. I like to think if there was a vegetarian there, they’d be well catered for by default without me having to really do anything different. I love meat, and for a BBQ it’s typically the star of the show, but you’re going to want a supporting cast.
You can grill veggies though. Slap some BBQ sauce on an eggplant or bell pepper or asparagus.
And if you’re inviting vegetarians/vegans to your BBQ, why don’t you have veggie burgers for 'em? I eat meat myself, but I also know how to cater to my guests if I’m throwing a gathering.
I don’t expect shit from anyone. That said, when I’m at one I’m still going to ask if there are options, because why wouldn’t I?
Dude, have you ever, like, tried grilled vegetables on a bun? It’s hands down better.
Even a simple salted slice of eggplant with some olive oil is amazing.
Better than what? Overcooked chicken? I’ll believe it. Better than perfectly cooked ribs or brisket? …nah.
Don’t have to believe me if you try it
The great thing about eating both is I don’t have to choose
I’ve dated people who don’t eat meat. I feel like by and large they understand what a BBQ is. As others have mentioned I always do some sort of salad or vegetable based dish just because it’s good to have some greenery in general. Failing that surely there’s decent vegan mayo by now. You show me someone that says they don’t like potato “salad” and I’ll show you a damn liar.
I’ve had plenty of vego/vegan mates be cool at these sort of events. Yet to see the hoard of gate crashing vegans turn up to a BBQ demanding specially catered food that they could probably guess won’t be present.
I would honestly bet money that if someone shows up to a BBQ and complains about what’s available, 9 out of 10 times it’s going to be someone who eats meat and is upset that there either isn’t their favorite meat or like, that there aren’t eggs in the potato salad or something. Not much money, because I’m broke, but I’d put like five bucks on it no problem.
