Really this country should gave gone to unisex toilets generations ago
The reality of this is that it would end up like divisions in sports and other competitive activities and we’d have a women’s restroom and a unisex restroom. Because some women want to avoid the opposite sex and society will broadly respect that because they are women.
If schools did switch to all unisex toilets, then we’d just be a complaint and a lawsuit away from official Title IX policy being that girls toilets are mandatory regardless of whether or not there are unisex toilets but boys toilets are not if unisex toilets are available and to do otherwise is sex discrimination because of some arbitrary excuse containing the word “historic” to explain why discrimination is not discrimination so long as it benefits girls.
Other than capacity, space, and expense retrofitting issues. Single occupancy toilets take up more room which means being able to handle less people in the same space and space is not an unlimited resource in most building designs. Especially if you are talking about doing it to an existing building.
My comment about Title IX (a law that says that any educational program receiving federal funding may not discriminate with respect to sex) is specifically in reference to them taking exactly that stance with sports - if a girl wants to play a sport that has a boys team but not a girls then a school is required to let her try out for the boys team (and cannot consider her sex and gender as far as whether she makes the team) under Title IX policy, but if a boy wants to play a sport that has a girls team but not a boys team, he’s SOL under current Title IX policy. To do otherwise is sex discrimination. Equity.
In fact, one of my favorite theaters around here is all unisex bathrooms. You shut a door and you have a dedicated toilet and sink. It’s fantastic.
That dramatically reduces capacity though. Which is fine if you don’t need that capacity, and/or aren’t trying to retrofit existing facilities without spending a fortune.
There’s a pizza place nearish me that has two single occupancy unisex restrooms, for example. But before they moved to unisex they had two single occupancy gendered restrooms, so they were just changing signage rather than having to do any kind of construction to make it happen. As opposed to say a local theater that has 6 toilets, 4 urinals and 4 sinks in one restroom and not remotely enough space to have 6 separate rooms with a toilet and sink each in the same space - but they expected to need higher throughput in a smaller footprint (less so now, but they were pretty busy pre-COVID).
It’s not weird if you have non-binary kids using the boys restroom.
Here’s the Republican logic:
Trans kids shouldn’t exist.
Trans kids shouldn’t be allowed to transition.
Trans kids shouldn’t be allowed puberty blockers.
Trans kids shouldn’t have access to basic health products necessary for human dignity.
Republicans want to do everything they can to marginalize trans kids, make life difficult for trans kids and, ultimately, make it even more likely that trans kids will try to kill themselves than they already do, and that rate is damned high enough as it is.
Let me put it to you another way maybe you can understand…
Are you going to tell Buck Angel he’s not allowed to have tampons in the men’s room? 'Cause I have news for you…
How about people that are born with both sets of sexual organs? Should those people not have access to the products that they need regardless of which bathroom they go in to?
They are intersex. That’s a complicated biological situation unique to the individual. I suppose ideally we would change all bathrooms to accommodate 1.7% of the population? If so, I can propose some larger groups who may want representation in public facilities
So you agree that it is a problem, just not as big of a problem as others? If you look on the bright side that’s still a win, even if you can think of bigger ones. Are you actively campaigning for the other changes you can think of?
Fyi, the reason it’s noteworthy is he put them in boys toilets and boys don’t menstruate. Which is weird
This guy also doesn’t support free lunches for kids in school. Says the majority don’t need them, so we shouldn’t provide them at all.
I gotta say, you sure have some terrible takes, my friend.
Been researching me. Dishonestly representing my opinions. Poor.
I am totally in favour of free school lunches for those in need.
Do you support buying rich peoples kids lunch with tax money?
Rich people’s kids go to schools that provide free lunches dingbat.
Transmasc students who use boys toilets still menstruate unless on some serious hormone therapy.
Really this country should gave gone to unisex toilets generations ago
That is a fraction of a fraction of a percent of people. Making all toilets wheelchair accessible would probably help more.
Problem is, women hate it when men use their toilets
Wow your post history is weird.
Cis this cis that, election fraud, echo chamber, echo chamber, echo chamber! ( and it goes on )
Pointing out people are crazy? Guilty
The reality of this is that it would end up like divisions in sports and other competitive activities and we’d have a women’s restroom and a unisex restroom. Because some women want to avoid the opposite sex and society will broadly respect that because they are women.
If schools did switch to all unisex toilets, then we’d just be a complaint and a lawsuit away from official Title IX policy being that girls toilets are mandatory regardless of whether or not there are unisex toilets but boys toilets are not if unisex toilets are available and to do otherwise is sex discrimination because of some arbitrary excuse containing the word “historic” to explain why discrimination is not discrimination so long as it benefits girls.
Instead of stalls put proper walls and doors on the toilets like you have at home. Boom. Unisex toilets with no issues.
Other than capacity, space, and expense retrofitting issues. Single occupancy toilets take up more room which means being able to handle less people in the same space and space is not an unlimited resource in most building designs. Especially if you are talking about doing it to an existing building.
My comment about Title IX (a law that says that any educational program receiving federal funding may not discriminate with respect to sex) is specifically in reference to them taking exactly that stance with sports - if a girl wants to play a sport that has a boys team but not a girls then a school is required to let her try out for the boys team (and cannot consider her sex and gender as far as whether she makes the team) under Title IX policy, but if a boy wants to play a sport that has a girls team but not a boys team, he’s SOL under current Title IX policy. To do otherwise is sex discrimination. Equity.
In fact, one of my favorite theaters around here is all unisex bathrooms. You shut a door and you have a dedicated toilet and sink. It’s fantastic.
Work has a selection of “unisex” bathrooms and I use them all the time, much preferred over the mens room.
So I’m personally benefitting from this brand of “wokeness”, even if I’m not trans.
That dramatically reduces capacity though. Which is fine if you don’t need that capacity, and/or aren’t trying to retrofit existing facilities without spending a fortune.
There’s a pizza place nearish me that has two single occupancy unisex restrooms, for example. But before they moved to unisex they had two single occupancy gendered restrooms, so they were just changing signage rather than having to do any kind of construction to make it happen. As opposed to say a local theater that has 6 toilets, 4 urinals and 4 sinks in one restroom and not remotely enough space to have 6 separate rooms with a toilet and sink each in the same space - but they expected to need higher throughput in a smaller footprint (less so now, but they were pretty busy pre-COVID).
It’s not weird if you have non-binary kids using the boys restroom.
Here’s the Republican logic:
Trans kids shouldn’t exist.
Trans kids shouldn’t be allowed to transition.
Trans kids shouldn’t be allowed puberty blockers.
Trans kids shouldn’t have access to basic health products necessary for human dignity.
Republicans want to do everything they can to marginalize trans kids, make life difficult for trans kids and, ultimately, make it even more likely that trans kids will try to kill themselves than they already do, and that rate is damned high enough as it is.
Let me put it to you another way maybe you can understand…
Are you going to tell Buck Angel he’s not allowed to have tampons in the men’s room? 'Cause I have news for you…
Non binary is a fad that we will not hear about in 15 years
I’m not a republican.
There will be a different name for it, but non-binary people have been around as long as there have been people.
One of the more famous examples:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/pioneering-androgyny-classic-hollywood-star-marlene-dietrich-180963842/
Perhaps,.there are still goths out there
some boys do.
No. Those are not boys
How about people that are born with both sets of sexual organs? Should those people not have access to the products that they need regardless of which bathroom they go in to?
They are intersex. That’s a complicated biological situation unique to the individual. I suppose ideally we would change all bathrooms to accommodate 1.7% of the population? If so, I can propose some larger groups who may want representation in public facilities
So you agree that it is a problem, just not as big of a problem as others? If you look on the bright side that’s still a win, even if you can think of bigger ones. Are you actively campaigning for the other changes you can think of?
Should I be campaigning for anything?
I’m one of them. your opinion is irrelevant.