You should almost never quit if you expect to be fired. Make them fire you and file for unemployment, then challenge them when they try to get out of it. The government tends to err on the side of the employee in my experience when things are unclear, and “We have a knowledge gap that prevents us from confirming whether or not you were actually violating policy, but you’re fired anyway” is the kind of thing you can feel pretty confident challenging.
Make them fire you and file for unemployment, then challenge them when they try to get out of it.
I do not love the odds of a day laborer out maneuvering their professional claims denial behemoth in a court packed with pro-business Federalist Society flunkies.
Against some mom and pop porter service? Sure. But the odds of beating a company that vast and influential seems low.
Depends on the state. Some states are near impossible to get unemployment in. Others, it’s almost impossible for them to deny you unemployment outside of being violent or stealing from them. Know your state’s unemployment laws and use them to your benefit as best as you can.
My Mom managed to get unemployment in Texas against an oil company by spending about an hour total on the phone over a week.
Bonus was that the incident happened about a week before the Covid lockdown, so not only did she get unemployment, but also got the $600/week Covid unemployment bump.
If the drivers are contractors, wouldn’t this level of surveillance and dictating how they perform their job be a violation of labor law? I thought this level of micro management would indicate that the drivers are employees not contractors.
I thought I just saw the other day that a judge ruled they were employees, not contractors. Let me look…
Okay, it’s a little more complex than that - looks like it was one of their “delivery partners” who decided to unionize, and the NRLB ruled Amazon is a joint employer with the delivery partner company. lol Gift WaPo article for it. I couldn’t find other sources.
You should almost never quit if you expect to be fired. Make them fire you and file for unemployment, then challenge them when they try to get out of it. The government tends to err on the side of the employee in my experience when things are unclear, and “We have a knowledge gap that prevents us from confirming whether or not you were actually violating policy, but you’re fired anyway” is the kind of thing you can feel pretty confident challenging.
I do not love the odds of a day laborer out maneuvering their professional claims denial behemoth in a court packed with pro-business Federalist Society flunkies.
Against some mom and pop porter service? Sure. But the odds of beating a company that vast and influential seems low.
Depends on the state. Some states are near impossible to get unemployment in. Others, it’s almost impossible for them to deny you unemployment outside of being violent or stealing from them. Know your state’s unemployment laws and use them to your benefit as best as you can.
My Mom managed to get unemployment in Texas against an oil company by spending about an hour total on the phone over a week.
Bonus was that the incident happened about a week before the Covid lockdown, so not only did she get unemployment, but also got the $600/week Covid unemployment bump.
These drivers are most likely contractors, not employees, so no unemployment.
If the drivers are contractors, wouldn’t this level of surveillance and dictating how they perform their job be a violation of labor law? I thought this level of micro management would indicate that the drivers are employees not contractors.
Correct! Amazon and other delivery companies are absolutely violating labor laws and they’re getting away with it because of regulatory capture.
I thought I just saw the other day that a judge ruled they were employees, not contractors. Let me look…
Okay, it’s a little more complex than that - looks like it was one of their “delivery partners” who decided to unionize, and the NRLB ruled Amazon is a joint employer with the delivery partner company. lol Gift WaPo article for it. I couldn’t find other sources.