• Zip2@feddit.uk
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    4 months ago

    As a non-American, can I just say: get your shit together and ban guns as you clearly can’t be trusted with them as a country.

    Fully expecting to get downvoted by the “but it’s mah hobby” brigade. Get a new hobby, there’s peoples lives at stake.

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        4 months ago

        What makes it easier to get a gun license if I get a drivers license afterwards?

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      4 months ago

      The reality of it is we know straight up banning guns is the only way to truly solve this problem. The issue is we like to pretend it is some super complex issue with all this nuance that can only be approached by the best and brightest, but the right people to put that policy together just haven’t come along yet. We tell ourselves that because the truth is we are totally okay with a certain amount of faceless death as long as we can have our toys and we don’t have to clean up the mess.

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      4 months ago

      We’ve been arguing about this in the US for my whole life, and I’m not young. At this point it should be obvious neither of the two faces of our government has any interest in doing anything more about guns than using the topic as a wedge to divide us and as a source of campaign funding. So you want to ban guns. Is that the hill you want your children to die on? How about instead of insisting that’s the only way, we enact a solution that keeps kids alive and that both the red and blue team can agree on, like, say, mandatory armed guards (a paid job, not volunteers) at school entrances. Is it in conflict with our ideal vision of a peaceful society? Maybe, but it works. Other countries have done it and it stopped school shootings entirely.

      Edit: I know it’s not the best solution, but we can’t seem to get to the best solution. So would you rather insist a ban is the only way and continue fighting? Or would you rather find a middle path and keep children alive?

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      4 months ago

      That would never happen because whichever party does it, they can kiss goodbye to victory forever.

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      4 months ago

      And as an American, all i have to say is

      Sure, we will just march on up to the Capitol amidst all the lobbiers and gun obsessed GoP fascists and tell them, “Please stop, someone from lemmy who isn’t even American says that’s all we need to do.”

      If you aren’t American, keep your mouth shut on what we “should” do. Many, many of us are tired of these shootings, and on top of it all, our democracy is at stake, along with our ways of life to boot. Our country is failing, and all we can do is VOTE. It’s not that fucking easy. Stop accusing our entire country of this bullshit like we want it. The majority of us aren’t like this.

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        4 months ago

        Y’all became a country by rebelling and telling England to fuck off also because of the whole “no taxation without representation”.

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          Yeah and it’s 2024. Any kind of rebellion risks us getting bodied by our high powered military. We have families.

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              4 months ago

              Yup, it’s SO easy to just force them to ban guns. Do you realize just how many MAGA gun nut freaks are eager for just one reason to pull the trigger? Fuck off

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        4 months ago

        No, you’re right. You don’t need to listen to anyone else when you’re doing such a great job on your own.