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        Ah, yes. “It was sarcasm.” Trump pulled that last night too.

        If you didn’t like it then I meant something different and you just didn’t get it. Women love that response.

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      Yeah well played, they got a bunch of millions for promoting politics and they are going to chill in their private jet and buy groceries with it. Have fun today working to death to afford rent and cheap food.

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          A post on the frontpage of lemmy with so many upvotes about a scummy pop celebrity endorsing the red and blue party is a lose for humanity and a win for any billionare or politician.

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            Not sure I’ve heard Swift described as “scummy” before.

            And if you’re so against billionaires and politicians, why are you for the billionaire politician from the party who wants to cut taxes for billionaires, and not the candidate from a working class background who wants to increase taxes for billionaires?

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                If you vote and support people with blood on their hands you are directly evil. If you push a two side narrative when it clearly not you are misleading people

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              Not sure I’ve heard Swift described as “scummy” before.

              Scummy is a kind word for someone who fly his private jet to buy groceries. We are talking about one of the biggest polluting individual on the planet.

              And if you’re so against billionaires and politicians, why are you for the billionaire politician from the party who wants to cut taxes for billionaires, and not the candidate from a working class background who wants to increase taxes for billionaires?

              I’m neither for a billionare or for a genocide supporter. If you believe calling these out is showing them support you are probably a victim of their propaganda.

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                I don’t believe Swift buys her own groceries, or that anyone on her staff takes a jet to the grocery store. That’s just dumb.

                I think it’s ridiculous that we have a system where someone can make billions singing songs while people providing essential functions have troubles making ends meet, but I haven’t heard any credible evidence that Swift exploits her staff.

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                  a system where someone can make billions singing songs while people providing essential functions have troubles making ends meet

                  You just described how the exploitation works these days. By definition no billionare is kind: if you and me or the average person would turn into a billionare we would give so much money away that we wouldn’t be billionare anymore. A billion is more than 999 millions, imagine wanting more than that. Don’t expect anyone who seek that much wealth to be kind to others, their charity is the equivalent of the average person tipping 10 cents, probably less if you do the math.

                  Plane flights are tracked and public even for private jets, you can search for her rides. A quick search show they once did a minute flight to avoid a traffic jam…

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            Yet it’s a loss for the billionaire-politician Trump… which is all that matters.

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    And its Joever.

    Was honestly never any doubt Taylor would support Kamala. She is pretty publicly Liberal with a capital L and tends to care about things like autonomy for women and all those crazy things. She probably would have stayed quiet for ticket sales but then the trump campaign deep faked her and…

    Said it before and I’ll say it again. If you have to fuck with a frothing at the mouth fandom? Go after k-pop before you go after T-swizzle.

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      And in case anyone isn’t aware and is taking advice from this post, don’t fuck with K-pop. They’ll fuck you up.

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        Oh. K-pop stans will fuck your shit up and destroy any online infrastructure you have.

        Swifties will fuck your shit up, burn down your home with you inside it, and piss on the ashes. All while their parents (and randos who got Swifty pilled by stuff like The Fall Guy) are grooving in the street and waving off hte cops.

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      She probably would have stayed quiet for ticket sales but then the trump campaign deep faked her and…

      She might have done something more subtle like she did with Joe Biden cookies 4 years ago. I agree, in this case she had no choice but to share her opinion loud and clear.

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      Idk, the recent pic of her chummy day/night out with Brittany Mahomes planted quite a bit of doubt for me. There was a lot of speculation after those pictures released that she’d come out for Kamala, to get ahead of any backlash.

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        Just being nice to the wife of her boyfriend’s buddy, not asking him to turn away from his friends, even if they’re fools. As my daughter said, those football guys get hit in the head a lot…

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          I personally think the company you choose to keep says a lot about you. There’s being polite with your partner’s friends and then there’s being all over someone like a bestie. It’s amazing how well her PR machine works that she gets white knighted so much, even on Lemmy. May I remind everyone that she is a billionaire and didn’t get to be one accidentally. She’s just as bad as the rest of them, she just pays people to make her seem not as threatening, and it’s clearly working based on all the free defense she gets on the internet.

          She’s not your friend. Arguably, she’s Brittany Mahome’s friend.

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            Yes. The company she keeps is her boyfriend. Her boyfriend who is a tight end (hee hee) on the same team that Mahomes is a quarterback on. That means he only “looks good” if Mahomes throws to him.

            Welcome to being an adult. Yes, there are thresholds where you say “Fuck off, I don’t care”. But when it can potentially ruin your partner’s career to not smile and nod? You act like an adult and smile and nod. And then you go off on them during the car ride home (well… plane ride for T-Swizzle).

            Nobody (sane) is going to argue that Taylor is a secret leftist or anything. But she has consistently shown that she cares about LGBTQ+ rights and Womens’ Rights (whether as part of her brand or as herself, it doesn’t matter) and quietly endorsed Biden. The only question was whether she would stay silent, quietly endorse Kamala, or release a press release. She chose the press release.

            But hey, feel free to continue making deranged purity tests that just alienate everyone else. That totally leads to electoral wins and change.

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              It’s not deranged. There are degrees and nuances to all human relationships and situations but this was and is a pretty public one. These are hard choices for anyone but they do still matter. I don’t think smiling and nodding is acting like an adult, I think it’s cowardly. There is no maturity in avoiding things.

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          Billionares are money addicts with a mental disorder, they would still lower themself even for 50 dollars. Being endorsed by the establishment is how you become a pop star and how your albums magically top more skilled artists than you.

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    Couldn’t give two shits about all these Pop Star positions. I do delight in this specific one because Trump’s campaign fucked with her, and drew a line in the sand with regard to Generative AI bullshit in a campaign.

    They deserve all the negative press that comes from this, and much more. I don’t care for Taylor Swift, but I like this move.

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      It’s the Hive Mind Stans phenomenon that fascinates me, meme-activated collective action that is a very modern social body.

      Some of the stuff BTS ARMY got up to was fantastic and a bit scary. Also large numbers. Very large.

      So the Swifties haven’t been weaponized yet. But they could be, soon. Having deepfake A.I. impersonation of fans made by fascist followers of a reality TV star be the thing that raises their state of collective power to Ready is just… well, I am living in a Gibson novel.

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    Look, I am not a billionaire loving guy anymore than some of you are.

    But has anyone here considered that Musk has made an impact on the views of young white men (whom also happen to be Republican and Conservative or Proud Boys?

    Does it bother us that these men follow a billionaire who doesn’t give two shits about them? Yes.

    Do I care that Taylor Swift is the opposite of that and encourages young women and men, be it black, gay, trans, etc to be opposite end of that spectrum. Fuck yes, we shouldn’t base our views off the rich but has it ever occurred to anyone here that it is using those billionairs to represent and have them be vocal with the power they hold with our views instead?

    I will absolutely take Taylor Swift speaking up and saying what she believes in and her giving that voice to 100000+ people whose only voice is heard in a vote if her speaking up also encourages people to say fuck Trump and and Musk and every fucking dumb ass on this post that thinks Taylor speaking out is a bad thing by comparison to it somehow being worse then what they already do with Musk.

    Fuckem, fuck billionaires, but God damn keep fucking roasting them TSwiftie.

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      If I had a platform that millions of people listened to (which I don’t), and strongly held beliefs about how the country could be made better for everyone (which I do), why wouldn’t I use my platform to share those beliefs? How could I not?

      No one MUST obey what either of them says, just like no one would be compelled to obey me in my hypothetical. But I don’t really have a problem with any person using whatever platform they’ve found themselves with to express their own beliefs and desires. I don’t think people lose the right to free expression just because they are rich and/or famous and/or powerful.

      Edit: And if you piss a lot of people off and lose all your advertisers because your opinions are repugnant and awful - well hey, that’s the choice you made.

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        Ironically, Taylor Swift was, up to this point, trying very hard NOT to use her platform. Just read her post. She’s BEGGING the reader not to blindly follow her in voting, and do their own research and make their own choice. She’d said she’d wait until after her tour to endorse a candidate (which would have been after the election 🤣 ), but she says in her post that the AI DeepFake Endorsement she ‘made’ of Trump compelled her to give up her secret ballot and outright state she’s voting for Harris.

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          Great point and apologies for glossing over that. I guess my reply just blurred into my general opinion about people dismissing or being grumpy about “celebrity” endorsements or political statements.

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            I hear ya. Yeah, I do agree with ‘you shouldn’t make a political opinion based on what a celebrity does,’ but the reality is that people might waiver until they hear someone they like and trust (like a celebrity) makes a decision. Sad fact of life in this popularity contest we call a political system. ;)

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        why wouldn’t I use my platform to share those beliefs?

        I think it’s perfectly valid to say “the system that gave me this platform is unfair and I shouldn’t have benefited from it to the degree that I have, but I have the platform now so I’m going to use it for good.”

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      I’m not down with billionaires either, but at least she’s using her fame and money towards some good things.

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        It’s one of the very few ethical ways to become a billionaire I think. If you sell an album or book for $10, and you’re a global sensation, it’s reasonable you’ll get 100 million people buying it. It just falls on you then to use that money for his good reasons and adequately compensate people who support you. And Swift has generally been really good about that.

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          Yes, agreed. I do think overall that being a billionaire necessitates someone else (lots of someone elses) getting the shaft. But there are degrees of… billionairism, and she is on the right side of that, albeit still a billionaire.

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      every fucking dumb ass on this post that thinks Taylor speaking out is a bad thing by comparison to it somehow being worse then what they already do with Musk.

      If your political opinion is swayed by either a pop star or a billionaire, you’re kinda a dumb ass. Full stop.

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    So of course Musk immediately threatens to “give her a child”. Like a normal not weird person.

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    I love the focus on the ‘childless cat lady’ line.

    I think that line epitomises the pointless spite that characterises MAGAism. The constant bullying and insults are entirely unnecessary to their agenda but they just can’t stop themselves, and if we end up post-November with them wondering how things might have gone had they not insulted tons of voters this way then I’ll find that delicious.

    I suppose the counterpoint is that the insults and bullying might well be necessary, that their ‘othering’ and painting opponents as lesser, more ridiculous, less human enemies is a core part of how such populist fascist movements gain traction. “The cruelty is the point,” as some say.

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      It’s totally the point. The problem is they are running out of “outsider” groups they can demonize effectively so they have turned towards their own potential voters (mainly women).

      As much as they want to turn transgender people into the new jews, most people just don’t have that much of a problem with them.

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        IMHO it’s harder to demonize a group that might include your son or daughter. Their racism persists because there are no white people who discover that they’ve actually been black their whole lives.

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          Although, I bet if those racist assholes took DNA tests many of them would find they did have some African-American blood, especially if they were from the South.

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      The constant bullying and insults are entirely unnecessary to their agenda

      The constant bullying and insults are the very core of fascist strategy.

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    Her statement was impeccable. She mentioned the AI generated fake image which appeared three weeks ago. This is the response that had to be made by her. She signed it Childless Cat Lady. Perfect.

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      I’d bet my left testicle all these millionaire and billionaire celebrities are actually voting Republican… they’re just too afraid of the backlash to admit it… lol.

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    Now the Biden administration needs to follow through and declare election day a federal holiday.

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        Average Americans and thinking the President is all-powerful, name a more iconic duo.

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          Average americans and thinking that a national holiday means anything. I’ve worked the majority of the holidays for the past 10 years. They don’t even count for overtime unless the policies (sort of contract) of the employer state they do.

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            Yes, it happens, but the majority of American workers still had Labor Day off this year.

            It would have a measurable impact on voter turnout.

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              The people who can get holidays off are generally the people who have the means to vote otherwise.

              Until the last few years, the only time I had holidays off were if I could get someone to switch with me, meaning at least someone was working that day.

              Labor day didn’t mean shit to me working at fast food, and retail has sales instead of closing.

              Walmart ain’t closed on labor day and neither is McDonald’s.

              That’s the first and second largest employers in the world, not respecting the holiday literally made for their employees.

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    If Taylor Swift spearheads voter registration drives in swing states and Pennsylvania specifically, the race could be over.

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      I don’t imagine most of her fans are of voting age, but the exposure certainly can’t hurt.

      I mean…Trump has a 60-something year old retired wrestler, and a 50-something trashrock star for his celebrity endorsements.

      One seems more significant than the other, especially for women.

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            Listen. And understand. Time is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

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        I’m the same age as Taylor and I see at least one of my peers attending her concerts every week on social media. Her reach right now is insane.

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          Sure, I get that. I’d just like the obvious sane choice to be made more than a celebrity endorsement. Feels pretty shitty that we’re at this point.

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            Our last president was a celebrity, and that’s the second actor we’ve had as president alone. What point are you referring to?

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        Taylor is 34 and has been popular for over a decade. There are young fans, but she has millions of fans of voting age

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        All of my coworkers are Swifties who attend her concerts and constantly play her music. Most of them are in their 30s and 40s. Her audience isn’t as young as you’d think, she’s been making music for decades now.

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    Perfect. Now she’ll do a voter registration drive.

    Also if you’ve been sitting on a donation for Harris between now and the next 24 hours will give Harris another big news cycle bump.

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    But I saw PICTURES that she SUPPORTED Trump! Her LITERALLY SAYING SHE ENDORSES KAMALA is Fake News! Trump would NEVER lie to me!

    -Republicans who do their Own Research!

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    Some folks here really seem to think that her fans don’t have any political opinions without her. This is actually as much about her politically engaged fan base wanting her to use her platform for good, than it is about swaying people who might be very young or unsure about voting.

    Lots of swifties are millenials who lean left and liberal and some have criticized her in the past for not speaking up or for leaving her views ambiguous in a way that left room for the right to coopt her image. This is not about silly pop fans needing to be told what to think. People aren’t ignorant. It’s exactly because she’s powerful and very wealthy, that it’s important for her to use her power to be very clear about where she stands. Especially in light of the ai thing and the Brittany Mahomes weirdness.

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    Can’t wait for Trump’s reaction. I guess the pictures of support for him were fake, huh?

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    Been waiting for this since Trump decided to attack her and her fanbase, and misuse her image without her permission.

    Go on, you MAGA idiots, start shouting at Taylor Swift. I dare you.