cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5893527

Perhaps it’s more fitting not to erase these names, but rather append swastikas to them, guiding readers towards a plaque that elucidates their heinous crimes as Nazis. In this way, the monument will persist as an enlightening reminder of who exactly the “victims of communism” truly are.

  • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
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    2 months ago

    Those victims of communism monuments are such a stupid fucking thing, the implication always being that nobody ever died under capitalism. What a joke.

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      When they do this they’re trying to draw an (obviously false) equivalence between the Nazis and Communists in an active way; or even insinuate the Nazis were better (which is definitional Nazi apologia) by doing weird shit like this — counting Nazis killed as “victims of communism” or ‘children that might have been born but weren’t due to war’ as victims of communism. Anyone who died or might have lived but didn’t anywhere in the vicinity of anything tangential to communists are considered victims of communism to them. This particular organization of rightist lunatics even counts deaths from covid as victims of communism.

      They were also organized and founded by literal Banderite nazis in collaboration with the CIA and ilk out of their nazi-filled predecessor the "Captive Nations Lobby.’

      Makes you think about how these Banderites had connections to the US and its European axiI mean its allies

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          It’s interesting you’re so frothingly reactionary you took me saying:

          an (obviously false) equivalence between the Nazis and Communists in an active way; or even insinuate the Nazis were better (which is definitional Nazi apologia)

          ie. me saying: “The Communists are better than the Nazis and anyone trying to convince you otherwise is engaging in Nazi apologia”

          you instead took that as me saying: “Stalin did nothing wrong” and throw out an ethnicized slur toward Russians (who were only one of the hugely diverse groups of nationalities within the Soviet Union. Stalin himself was Georgian, even).

          You’re so reactionary and so sympathetic toward the Nazis that you just made up a thing I didn’t say to start frothingfash about.

          There were certainly things Stalin got wrong, and also many things he got right. He was a person. A human being; and part of the first socialist experiment ever tried in history. There were failures, and also great successes. It’s an incredible history which you seem to be too irrationally hate-filled and stunted-in-curiosity to ever recognize and learn from. And in all of this — the Soviet communists were, and are, forever incomparably better than the Nazis. Or their collaborators. Or for that matter the European colonialists and their US offshoots who were doing what Hitler did and worse for hundreds of years in Africa and the Americas, etc. which served as Hitler’s inspiration and original material support system. And anyone who doesn’t think so and says otherwise, is a literal Nazi apologist — and also irresponsibly historically illiterate.

          And some things you can never take away from Stalin’s leadership, try and wish as you might, is the rapid industrialization into a formidable superpower of the USSR in 1/12 of the time and human cost it took the capitalist-colonialist world, and the subsequent defeat of the Nazis; after which the USSR, having collectivized and industrialized, ended the every-decade famines that rocked the region for its entire history previously, built mass housing to end homelessness and had expanded healthcare and education to everyone developing it to world-class levels, and even providing free travel and education for students, scientists, teachers, doctors, and fighters and commanders and leaders of independence and other revolutionary struggles from around the world including in the imperialized and colonized countries which “the West” kept in squalor and subjugation; which sustained even after his death the means to educate, train, and arm the people of colonized nations to gain their independence and assert themselves on the world stage — paving the way to some of the great multipolar projects we see today. This, no matter what tantrums you throw or complaints you levy toward the mistakes that were made, will never be taken away from the era of his leadership. And you may clutch your pearls, but the much of the global south thinks very differently than you do on this topic. May be worth considering why that is.

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              Lol how was it implied? You’re literally just making shit up and then getting mad at it man. Like I’m no Stalin supporter, but I like to call a spade a spade dude. And you’re acting like a fucking spade.

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                  Dude nowhere here was anybody implying Stalin did nothing wrong. I’m starting to suspect you just have cointelpro related brain rot where everything you see about communism online computes only as “Stalin apologist.”

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                  And I never pretend to be dumb, I am dumb. I’m just not an asshole about it like you are.

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    No I think it’s fitting to take them off. After all dead Nazis aren’t victims of anything, other than maybe Justice.