• pivot_root@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Because it’s not—by definition—stealing?

    Theft is the taking of another person’s personal property with the intent of depriving that person of the use of their property. Also referred to as larceny.

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    Digital piracy is:

    • Copying, not taking.
    • Not affecting personal property.
    • Not depriving the creator of their property.
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      3 months ago

      Why does everyone keep adding that qualifier to stealing like it makes any sense? So if I steal something from someones vacation home and return it before they visit, its not stealing either right? Thats residential piracy is it?

      How about I love a painting so much but I’m an asshole and I think artists don’t deserve to be paid for art, so I sneak in while he’s sleeping, with a replica in tow, and swap out his real painting for the identical fake. Thats not stealing either?

      I don’t know what changed over the years really, it was stealing in the 90s and stealing in the 00s, and then some people figured if they just said it wasnt stealing enough it would stick?

      You can argue the prices aren’t appropriate but its hard to argue you should get all your games for free just because, oh well nothings lost. I even pirate games but I’m not afraid to call it stealing.

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        So if I steal something from someones vacation home and return it before they visit, its not stealing either right? Thats residential piracy is it?

        It’s still theft. You intended to and successfully managed to deprive someone of their property, albeit temporarily. You would also still end up in front of a court for trespassing and breaking and entering.

        How about I love a painting so much but I’m an asshole and I think artists don’t deserve to be paid for art, so I sneak in while he’s sleeping, with a replica in tow, and swap out his real painting for the identical fake.

        Still theft, but with copyright infringement on top. You have deprived the artist of his property—his physical copy of the painting.

        I don’t know what changed over the years really, it was stealing in the 90s and stealing in the 00s, and then some people figured if they just said it wasnt stealing enough it would stick?

        People unquestionably accepting falsehoods is what changed. Have you noticed that when pirates do get caught and taken to civil or criminal court, it’s for copyright infringement, computer fraud and abuse, wire fraud, or something else tangential to theft but not actually theft? It’s because digital piracy is legally not “theft”.

        its hard to argue you should get all your games for free just because, oh well nothings lost.

        I am not making that argument.

        I even pirate games but I’m not afraid to call it stealing.

        I don’t, and I still wouldn’t call your digital piracy stealing. In English-speaking countries, at least, the law considers it to be copyright infringement.

        In the same vain, I wouldn’t call randomly sucker-punching someone “assault”: it’s battery.