• Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    41
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    2 months ago

    Bees make honey for their hive. Honey also does indeed contain bodily fluids from the bees.

    The bread making human consents to you taking the bread (presumably). Breast milk and other human bodily fluids can be vegan for the same reason.

    And insects pollinate plants not because they use the fruit, but for the nectar. They don’t care what happens after they leave the flower.

      • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        I didn’t want to go into it in the original comment, but yes. It is a relevant debate whether it’s vegan to swallow another humans semen, or even saliva. And yes, it is, if the human consents. Consent is the more or less the basis of whether vegans find it moral to consume something. Humans can give consent to sharing their fluids. Other animals cannot.