I’m currently using @nextcloud@mastodon.xyz for my music collection after downloading over 2.5k songs from YouTube Music (Premium). While it works fine for most things, I’m looking for a better alternative. My key requirement is to read files from a mounted WebDAV folder (NextCloud Folder).
The Subsonic API in NextCloud Music works fine, and I’ve had no issues streaming through clients like Symfonium and Subtract. However, I want to eliminate the 5-10 second buffering issue I experience on mobile. When I tried @powerampache@floss.social, my NextCloud AIO instance became unresponsive after about 30 minutes (happened twice, not sure why).
I also tried Navidrome, but I didn’t like how it organizes music—it only recognizes album artists, which doesn’t work for me since I don’t have albums. I downloaded the songs in Playlists using Seal.
Ideally, I’m looking for a solution that streams high-quality music instantly, like Spotify or YouTube Music. If possible, I’d prefer tweaking my Nginx config to resolve the buffering issue rather than setting up new software. What alternatives do you guys use for fast, high-quality music playback with WebDAV support?
Edit: Forgot to mention, the buffering issue only occurs when I use a Subsonic or Ampache client with NC Music. The web version works very smoothly.
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I’m using Plex with plexamp. You could also go jellyfin with finamp
Not gonna lie I love Plexamp so glad I gave it a chance awhile ago.
I use plexamp as well, I think I bought Plex Pass specifically to have it.
You can install a headless plexamp client onto a Raspberry Pi and have it hooked up to an audio receiver for seamless music casting.
Wait, what? That’s cool.
It’s a bit of a process to get it going, but it’s worth it for me so that I can use my phone to cast directly without needing to use a smart home device.
https://howtohifi.com/install-headless-plexamp-endpoint-home-network-raspberry-pi/
Jellyfin. I’ve been using it for several months. It works really great for streaming music and also videos. I use the Finamp app in my phone for music.
If I may recommend it, give Symfonium a try for an app front end. It’s actually stellar. I tried Finamp with the same and wasn’t as jazzed
I use Jellyfin, moved from subsonic and its amazing
Is Jellyfin Subsonic or Ampache API compatible?
@mitexleo @selfhosted I don’t know. I just use it with the official app or finamp.
How do you organize music? All of my songs in the same folder. Artist and Album sections are empty now.
@mitexleo @selfhosted artist/album. I use musucbrainz Picard to tag files, so jellyfin can identify easily.
How can I configure it? My Artist tab shows only one artist.
@mitexleo @selfhosted here you can find some information on how to organize your music directories in Jellyfin.
https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/server/media/music/
You need to add media library first.
Organizing them is going to be time consuming for me. Nextcloud Music has everything I need. It can detect genre, language etc. using NextCloud Recognize app. I just need to improve the buffering issue. 🥺
no, its a different thing
Do you only experience the 5-10 second buffering issue on mobile? If not, then you might be able to fix the issue by tuning your NextCloud instance - upping the memory limit, disabling debug mode and dropping log level back to warn if you ever changed it, enabling memory caching, etc…
Check out https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/admin_manual/installation/server_tuning.html and https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/admin_manual/installation/php_configuration.html#ini-values for docs on the above.
Yeah, I face that issue only on mobile. I use Nextcloud AIO. Everything should be optimized already. Though I’ve tuned my nginx config a little bit (using it as a reverse proxy in front of AIO).
If you want pure streaming DAAP using OwnTone is a good alternative https://owntone.github.io/owntone-server/
Personally I use gonic with the Subsonic API, and Ultrasonic on Android. I haven’t noticed any buffering lag, but it does buffer and cache aggressively. For mobile connections I see that as a big plus since it’ll continue to play even if I loose signal for a while.
Lose. “Loose” is for morals and what Monty Burns does to the hounds with bees in their mouth.
No one cares.
Personally I use gonic with the Subsonic API, and Ultrasonic on Android.
Gonic is a super lightweight subsonic API server with a very basic static stats “dashboard”. As so, it’s great for lower end devices. Only problem is that it sometimes fails to pick up the album art is some cases, if that don’t disturb you, then it’s great.
Airsonic (abandonedware) is the best subsonic server in my option. It displays all album arts correctly and is folder based which works much better than Navidrome’s Id tag reader, which is a dumpster fire.
Airsonic is on the heavier side on ram usage, around 1GB. Can probably run just fine on 500mb. Probably around what Jellyfin uses.
Ultrasonic is a great android app. It is just not updated for quite some time now.
I’m also running Jellyfin and I’ll experiment with Finamp. Let’s see if it takes the number one spot from Ultrasonic :)
Edit: Ultrasonic’s strong point is also the caching of music for offline listening. Not sure if Finamp has the capability.
Edit2: Yes, it can cache music.
There’s a ton of android clients Subtracks is nice too! Ultrasonic might not get regular updates, but it’s already very complete so there’s not much need.
I haven’t had much issues with gonic and album art, I guess YMMV
I’m syncing Spotify playlists with Lidarr and play my music in Jellyfin or Symfonium.
Funkwhale?
Last time I checked that project wasn’t actively maintained. I think Jellyfin suits my needs.
Sad to hear this news.
it’s closed source, but Roon is pretty darn good. Slick UI, tagging, artist/album information, local/remote playback, speaker streaming. I have it pointed to an NFS share on my file server. It handles large (250k+ songs) libraries reasonably well. They integrate directly with a couple services, though I’ve never used them.
the selling point for me, over other music servers(I’ve tried almost every one mentioned in this thread), was that it was a much better ux than any other offering. for the most part it has held up or exceeded recent comparisons.
disclaimers: it is not free. some might say expensive.
as seems the norm these days, the forums have some admin moderation problems.
they’ve not historically listened to user feedback seriously, though that has changed drastically over the past year.
they just got acquired by HK… which could really go either way long-term.
NGL, it took many years for it to mature to this point and it continues to be bumpy; though nothing worse than open software I’ve used and it is nothing if not reliable.
