• BatmanAoD@lemmy.world
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      Wot? They didn’t say they cheated, they said they kept a copy of the prompt at the top of their document while working.

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        Any use of an LLM in understanding any subject or create any medium, be it papers or artwork, results in intellectual failure, as far as I’m concerned. Imagine if this were a doctor or engineer relying on hallucinated information, people could die.

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          there is no LLM involved in ryven’s comment:

          • open assignment
          • select text
          • copy text
          • create text-i-will-turn-in.doc
          • paste text without formatting
          • work in this document, scrolling up to look at the assignment again
          • fall for the “trap” and search like an idiot for anything relevant to assignment + frankie hawkes, since no formatting

          i hope noone is dependent on your reading comprehension mate, or i’ll have some bad news

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            lmao fuck off, why put so much effort into defending the bullshit machines?

            EDIT: I honestly didnt even read your comment, too much time wasted arguing with bota and techbros, but if you mean to try to explain the user meant copying the assignment instructions then said user should never have used the word “prompt” in this context to begin with.

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              Damn, if you’re this stupid I understand why you’re scared of the machines.

              No one in this thread is talking about or “defending” LLMs but you.

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              I feel nothing but pity for how stupid you are acting right now. Read it all again and see if you can work it out.

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                How dare I hurt your feelings by standing up for academic honesty and responsibility. How dare I oppose automating paperwork meant to prove competence of students who will decide the fates of other people in their profession.

                Just despicable, absolutely attrocious behavior.

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                  Just despicable, absolutely attrocious behavior.

                  Yah, like when you defended literal, actual Nazis a few months back

                  User notes are fun

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                    Lmao, Nazis were moronic pigs serving a bigger pig out of self serving bias and xenophobia. I have never defended them.

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              Holy shit, “prompt” is not primarily an AI word. I get not reading an entire article or essay before commenting, but maybe you should read an entire couple of sentences before making a complete ass of yourself for multiple comments in a row. If you can’t manage that, just say nothing! It’s that easy!

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                I stand by everything that I have said. LLM AI is garbage, anybody who uses it for work or school is a garbage human being who needs removal from position, and if that commenter meant to say instructions but instead wrote prompt then they made a mistake.

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                  The word “prompt” is used correctly here:

                  My college workflow was to copy the prompt and then “paste without formatting” in Word and leave that copy of the prompt at the top while I worked, I would absolutely have fallen for this. :P

                  That’s the comment you originally responded to. It’s two sentences (with a comma splice) and very clearly has nothing to do with AI.

                  Misreading this and misunderstanding it, as simple as it is, is embarrassing but understandable. Commenting “I hope you lose your degree” because you can’t read 28 words of text without drawing completely the wrong conclusion is, again, embarrassing, but not dire.

                  Arguing in multiple comment threads about it, while your misunderstanding is repeatedly and clearly explained to you, and then saying you “stand by” all of this, makes it clear that you are a complete idiot.

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          You’re a fucking moron and probably a child. They’re telling a story from long before there were public LLMs.

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          they didn’t say they used any kind of LLM though? they literally just kept a copy of the assignment (in plain text) to reference. did you use an LLM to try to understand their comment? lol

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            Its possible by “prompt” they were referring to assignment instructions, but that’s pretty pointless to copy and paste in the first place and very poor choice of words if so especially in a discussion about ChatGPT.

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          There are workflows using LLMs that seem fair to me, for example

          • using an LLM to produce a draft, then
          • Editing and correcting the LLM draft
          • Finding real references and replacing the hallucinated ones
          • Correcting LLM style to your style

          That seems like more work than doing it properly, but it avoids some of the sticking points of the proper process